Sports Mogul's Next Game

[GM24]

I've played Pizza Tycoon, that game was horrible! Or maybe Im thinking of Fast Food Tycoon.

Does anyone remember Dino Park for MS-DOS and Macintosh? That game is hardcore.

[SFSteveG]

Originally posted by Razor Shines
Regarding non-sports sims, I think a good restaurant simulation game would be interesting. Sort of like Pizza Tycoon, but not restricted to pizza. The ideas sim would allow you to choose the restaurant type (italian, chinese, ect..), set the menu, hire staff, ect...

That sounds good except it would take FOREVER to make well without 5 times the staff.

[SFSteveG]

Dino Park was fricken Awesome! I played that in gradeschool.

[hoosiergoody]

There are a couple of good NCAA basketball sims out there, as well as pro sims. Whatever the next endeaver may be, I just hope that Clay puts out his best like baseball. Don't be worried about release dates- release a good game in the timing that it takes to make it good and relatively bug-free.

[rollsroyce11991]

Originally posted by boomboom
i honestly think that football mogul is a lost cause....

I agree with boomboom... I would way rather see a basketball mogul or even just work hard to make more updates for baseball mogul.

[anaveragecow]

a basketball mogul would be really cool but i would love to see an improved football mogul. Im a huge football fan and i love football mogul. I would definitley buy it if it came out. Mogul though should definitley stick to sports if they do expand. I think a really cool game would be if you could be one player through out a whole career. you could demand trades and negotiate contracts for yourself. If a game like that came out i would buy it in a heartbeat.

i still think baseball mogul is the best mogul game period.

[liveandletdie]

Originally posted by anaveragecow
I think a really cool game would be if you could be one player through out a whole career. you could demand trades and negotiate contracts for yourself. If a game like that came out i would buy it in a heartbeat.

OOTP developments made a game like this called Inside The Park Baseball. I played it. It's kinda fun, but kinda old after a while (its also slow).

[boomboom]

Originally posted by liveandletdie
OOTP developments made a game like this called Inside The Park Baseball. I played it. It's kinda fun, but kinda old after a while (its also slow).

anything ootp makes is slow

[boomboom]

I would love to see a basketball Mogul Online. similar to Baseball mogul online....

I would pay to play that!

[jonnymo]

Originally posted by boomboom
this would be a really cool football game...NCAA Football MOGUL

I think any other game has to build on the strengths of BBM. Why do we all play BBM? It's not just because of the sim speed (although that is definitely a plus). The underlying structure that makes BBM so appealing is being the GM/VP/CEO of the team.

Translating this to the realm of college sports would not be impossible, but the financial aspect would have to be changed significantly. Would the player be the AD, or would s/he also be the president and even the board of trustees? How will budgets be set?

There are plenty of wealthy owners in MLB with low-revenue teams who will not inject any of their own money to pay for team expenses; we, as GM/VP, need to run the team with the understanding that we're not going to get any funding courtesy of other, profitable divisions of the owner's portfolio.

In general, the only sports at the colllegiate level that at least break even are Division I football, men's and women's basketball, and (in God's country) men's hockey. And, greater than 50% of those teams never finish in the black. So, why keep them going? Building morale among the student body? Somewhat. Building complete student-athletes? Yeah, right. Keeping alumni involved? Bingo. The major revenue sources at US universities are (in no particular order) alumni contributions, tuition/room/board, and government funding. Ticket sales are pretty low on the list (although beer sales at 'SC games were always pretty robust).

Granted, in the major conferences, money flows into the athletic department from the conference, but the underlying issue here is that as AD, you need to provide funding for all of your sports, not just the one you care about. And, for most schools, at least a portion of their budget comes from outside the athletic department. This creates an awful lot of variables over which the player would have little control.

I'll keep this short, but here's one more fly in the ointment: recruiting. This takes the place of the amateur draft and free agency. It's a heck of a lot more nuanced than either of those, but I can't think of a way that SM would implement recruiting that would be really satisfying.

My sister is the head women's soccer and lacrosse coach for a D-III school. You want a challenge? D-III Athletic Director Mogul gets my vote.

[SFSteveG]

How about Boxing Mogul.
You are the Manager of a bunch of guys of different weight classes and degrees of skill/experience and you choose who they fight and where/when they train. You negotiate contracts with the fighter, promoter, gym, and all the other stuff. The only problem I could think of would be that interest in the sport isn't where it used to be.

Would anyone else play this?

[Bgsexy66]

Originally posted by SFSteveG
How about Boxing Mogul.
You are the Manager of a bunch of guys of different weight classes and degrees of skill/experience and you choose who they fight and where/when they train. You negotiate contracts with the fighter, promoter, gym, and all the other stuff. The only problem I could think of would be that interest in the sport isn't where it used to be.

Would anyone else play this?

that would be cool I've never really seen a boxing sim! However I would like to see basketball mogul, basketball is my next favorite sport to baseball.

[hawkeye3200]

I dunno about boxing, but Total Extreme Warfare is a pretty good sim that lets you own a wrestling federation or UFC-style promotion. They would be hard to compete with...

Does anyone know of a good basketball sim? I tried "Jump Shot Basketball" a while ago, but it's pretty horrible.

[SFSteveG]

Originally posted by hawkeye3200

Does anyone know of a good basketball sim? I tried "Jump Shot Basketball" a while ago, but it's pretty horrible.

Well I'll bet Mogul could do it better.

[21C]

Originally posted by hawkeye3200
Does anyone know of a good basketball sim? I tried "Jump Shot Basketball" a while ago, but it's pretty horrible.

Pro:
Fast Break http://www.sportplanet.com/fbb
Total Pro
http://www.greydogsoftware.com/tpb

College:
Fast Break College
http://www.fbbgames.com/fbcb
Tournament Dreams
http://www.400softwarestudios.com/td...b_overview.php