Is there now any doubt?

[Deke]

Give it up Barry, your scam is over and we're not stupid.

Now Giambi admits taking steroids that he got from Bonds' trainer. How can Barry honestly think people will believe him that he didn't touch the stuff. Sure thing Barry. Denying it only makes you look worse.

[John]

Its very obvious that Berry Bonds took steroids sometime.

[khan]

was there EVER any dobut though? How many 40 year old guys do you know that are stronger and more muscular than they ever were in their prime?

[doggeral]

To be honest with you I think its more likely that Barry Bonds did not take steriods.

How many 40+ year olds do you know that can do what he does period.....not any, but at least there are 40 year olds to compare him to.

How many 40+ year olds that you suspect of being on steriods are still in the sport? To me zippo.

They all break down in their mid-30's. So as bad as it looks based on what i've seen from who I consider to be suspected of using steriods. Bonds doesn't fit that mould. Where is his break down his little injuries that never seem to go away.....

Start with the 1 guy who's career is now over who we are sure to 100% he took steriods. Ken Caminiti. Look at him.

[Donyoungdropsit]

In the transcripts of the Grand Jury testamony, Giambi specifically states that he asked Anderson of Balco what gave Bonds his edge. Anderson told him what he gave to Bonds in steroidal and human body growth hormones in pills, injections and topical oinments. He then gave Giambi the same stuff. That is a smoking gun.

[scooter12321]

what happens now? is bonds no longerr mentioned in the same breath as Babe and Ted?

[Deke]

Yes, the steroid thing, no matter how good he has been keeps him from being mentioned in the top top players in history.

[jcantone]

its obvious bonds and sheff took steriods. what bonds has done is impossible .

the question is what does mlb, goverment do now. If i was mlb i would give him a 2yr suspension and wip out his records for the past 5yrs. same with sheff and giambi. show these guys that they cant get away with this stuff. be proactive and stop other players from doing the same. or at least make them think twice.

plus suspensions from the hall of fame for all 3 lifetime ban !!

jcantone
philly gm

[jcantone]

babe and Bonds . I laugh every time someone mentions them in the same breath. here's why.

Babe is the Best baseball player ever ! no debate is nesscasy.
why?

babe great hitter, but also an amazing pitcher before becoming a hitter. I beileve he has over 100 wins . correct me if I am wrong.

just try an imagine bonds trying to become a pitcher.

Babe made a major change in postions and dominated each like no other.

you can debate bonds possible having a better one season but not an overall carrear over Ruth .


jcantone
philly gm

[jcantone]

on giambi i have always liked him,
but it looks like he sold his soul to the devil and the devil is cashing it in now !

"Bothered by a balky knee, Giambi hit just .250 in 2003. Giambi batted .208 and played in only 80 games last season, missing time because of a tumor, which the New York Daily News reported was in his pituitary gland. Medical experts told the Chronicle that Clomid, a female fertility drug Giambi said he thought Anderson had given him, can exacerbate a tumor of the pituitary gland. "


What would you chose a 120 million contract and a tumor or an avg baseball caraer?


jcantone
philly gm

[scooter12321]

imagine if babe killed himslef with steroids instead of booze.

[Donyoungdropsit]

Originally posted by scooter12321
imagine if babe killed himslef with steroids instead of booze.

Imagine if the Babe played sober and in shape!

[paige1814]

It wasn't illegal to use steroids in Baseball.

[mcpickl]

they could use the "OJ" trick to show Bonds' use of steroids. Rather than " if the glove dont fit, you must acquit", find a hat Bonds wore five years ago, and have him try to fit it onto his swollen, misshapen skull.

case closed.

as to doggerals point of Bonds being 40+ and still playing well, I'll give you another oldster Ive always suspected.

William Roger Clemens.

[scooter12321]

Originally posted by mcpickl
they could use the "OJ" trick to show Bonds' use of steroids. Rather than " if the glove dont fit, you must acquit", find a hat Bonds wore five years ago, and have him try to fit it onto his swollen, misshapen skull.

case closed.

as to doggerals point of Bonds being 40+ and still playing well, I'll give you another oldster Ive always suspected.

William Roger Clemens.

Clemens? that is sacreligious.