The Brooks Kieschnick Trick

[slugpmc]

Anyone else aware of this?
You draft Kieschnick as a pitcher, convert him to a LF (have to go into commissioner mode, so yeah it's kinda cheating) and just observe him through his first 2-3 minor league years. Eventually, he'll be the best hitter in baseball, and in alot of scenarios the best hitter that ever lived.

[dps]

This is a common glitch from the last few years of Mogul, if you look at the hitter ratings for pitchers in the amateur draft you'll often notice some with perfect scores of 100, and all of these can be converted in to hitters that usually hit for high average with a lot of power, wretched defense, and no eye skills (and quite often above average baserunning skills). It is quite game-y and easy to exploit, so if you are trying to play a highly legitimate sim I'd advise against using it.

Yeah, but it's kind of unfortunate that it works in such a gamey manner (and that you have to cheat to do it) because historically there have been a number of guys who started their pro careers as pitchers but converted to position players or vice-versa, even some at the ML level.

[MadThespian]

Brooks was a failed OF who converted to pitching while still being used as a ph.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...iescbr01.shtml

I've long been asking for the ability to use any player at any position in BM. Not quite 200 players in ML history have seen significant playing time as both pitchers and position players and I find the inability to replicate this as one of BM's major shortcomings.

[MadThespian]

Here are some links to players who saw significant playing time as both pitchers and position players. Is this something that can get fixed Clay?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...mithwi02.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ueenme02.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...urphda04.shtml

Skip Lockwood is problematic in BM as in the version I have 2k10, he appears as a 3B in sims started as late as 1971
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ockwsk01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...altebu01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...woodjo02.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...effcha01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...effcha01.shtml