Occupy Wall Street protest

[ragecage]

Mistyped there?


Cutting spending wouldn't do that. Cutting spending would allow taxes to be cut, yes...but not yet...if we actually want to dig out of the hole we're in. And Ron Paul's plans include cutting spending, sure, but also completely getting rid of all income tax and capital gains taxes AND slashing the corporate tax rate.

Oh yeah, I understand that.

[OregonDuck1989]

Citizens United v. FEC aside, Paul may or may not have a shot. It's not even in his control. Ron Paul can put all the legislation forward he wants, he can propose corporate limitations (deemed unconstitutional), he can try to impose PACs to name their donors, he can do all he wants but trying to change the status quo is the hardest thing to do in politics and rarely ever works.

The reason I jumped on you is because bringing Paul into this is a fanboy move. RP fanboys will find any and all issues to bring up the Paulvolution and how incredibly awesome it would be for America blah blah blah.

This isn't something that by electing Ron Paul we have a chance to fix. This is an institutional failure of the American Political system and you can bring up how he speaks out against corporation in government. Well, so did Obama. So did McCain (in fact McCain has his name on legislation attempting to curb it) but a politician is a politician is a politician. The Occupy movement is bringing attention to this issue but it's not something people can fix, it's something that the United States Government must come out and say "We are behind this, we have allowed this to happen, and this entire systemic failure is on us." Ron Paul may have an idea on how to stop this, but I have an idea too. And I think we both have the same shot at passing it through congress.

But bringing back to your mention of Citizens United v. FEC. That case obviously opened the door for unlimited corporate funds to flow into the political machine and to support candidates financially and with political ads. But overturning that decision (unlikely as how could someone bring that case back to SCOTUS?) wouldn't prevent corporate political donations. It may halt anonymous donations upwards of millions of dollars. The fact is, that decision was in 2008, our congress was bought years before that.

[ragecage]

The reason I jumped on you is because bringing Paul into this is a fanboy move. RP fanboys will find any and all issues to bring up the Paulvolution and how incredibly awesome it would be for America blah blah blah.

So I bring up something of Paul and that's an auto fanboy move? I brought up Hermain Cains plan as well, does that make me fanboy of his? I also posted a poll of different tax system, am I fanboy of all these different tax systems?

I brought up different things of discussion so lets stop with this fanboy nonsense. If other candidates and Obama release some sort of plan that makes sense I will post that as well to bring up for discussion.

[free2131]

Pretty much all of the policies that I don't agree with Ron Paul about are ones that he has no chance of implementing, but the ones that I do agree with are ones that he could have a reasonable shot at changing (the main one being the withdrawal of troops in Afghanistan and his overall foreign policy).

[OregonDuck1989]

So I bring up something of Paul and that's an auto fanboy move? I brought up Hermain Cains plan as well, does that make me fanboy of his? I also posted a poll of different tax system, am I fanboy of all these different tax systems?

I brought up different things of discussion so lets stop with this fanboy nonsense. If other candidates and Obama release some sort of plan that makes sense I will post that as well to bring up for discussion.

Yeah sure except that's totally different then the way you brought up Paul. But whatever, this is a silly debate I'm not going to be HGM to your dickay on this issue right now

[dickay]

Yeah sure except that's totally different then the way you brought up Paul. But whatever, this is a silly debate I'm not going to be HGM to your dickay on this issue right now

only because you don't have hidden mod abilities to alter prior posts.

[ragecage]

Yeah sure except that's totally different then the way you brought up Paul. But whatever, this is a silly debate I'm not going to be HGM to your dickay on this issue right now

Well I didn't insult you, you insulted me, so I would probably say you're doing the dickay part. But leik u sez, watevurs.

[Kobie]

Well I didn't insult you, you insulted me, so I would probably say you're doing the dickay part. But leik u sez, watevurs.

OK ladies, break up the catfight.

[dickay]

Well I didn't insult you, you insulted me, so I would probably say you're doing the dickay part. But leik u sez, watevurs.

actually, to be totally honest, the insults and name calling are the property of HGM and on frequent loan to Kobie. that can't be denied.

[HoustonGM]

actually, to be totally honest, the insults and name calling are the property of HGM and on frequent loan to Kobie. that can't be denied.

Yes, that's totally honest.

[ragecage]

Sigh. I guess I shat the bed on this one.

[Kobie]

Sigh. I guess I shat the bed on this one.

bed has been shat

[OregonDuck1989]

Well I didn't insult you, you insulted me, so I would probably say you're doing the dickay part. But leik u sez, watevurs.

I knew there was going to be dispute on who was dickay and who has HGM. Much like you debate with TNP on who's doing the catching.


final zing.

[ragecage]

I knew there was going to be dispute on who was dickay and who has HGM. Much like you debate with TNP on who's doing the catching.


final zing.

Debate?

[ragecage]

Iraq war vet critically injured in Oakland.

I tell you, I think the longer this lasts, it's going to end up getting really ugly and we are all going to be losers in this affair (if not already).

Unless you are the 1%, everyone should absolutely be supportive of OWS. Not because of their message but, because imagine if something happened to YOU and you want to protest about it, and get treated in this manner...You wouldn't want that would you?