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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing6 View Post
    Indains and it's funny how they kill you year 1 like in your last dynasty hopefully you get them year 2
    Yeah, I noticed that too, lol. It was a good race though. Just looking over their team I can't point to one thing and say that was the reason they beat us. Our line-ups were equally good, our starting rotations were equally good, and our bullpen's were equally good. I guess it just boils down to injuries and luck, but oh well. I'll get 'em next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    Ok I'll take St. Louis

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    I'm about to get to work on writing up the deciding games, so if you want to take a stab do it soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Okay, it's all written up. But I'm gonna wait a while to post it and see if I can get some more guesses. I'll put the results up at around 2:00 no matter if there are more guesses or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    1918 WORLD SERIES
    ST. LOUIS CARDINALS vs. CLEVELAND INDIANS
    (89-66) (99-55)


    Game 5:

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           Indians (CLE) 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0    2  4  0
         Cardinals (STL) 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 x    4  9  1
    St. Louis takes the 3-2 series lead on an excellent start by Bill Doak. Doak went all nine and allowed just two runs on four hits while striking out an impressive six batters.

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             B. Doak  9.0  4  2  0  2  2  6 124   2.74
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    Game 6:

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           Indians (CLE) 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 2    6 10  2
    Red Ames allows six runs in eight innings, but the offense picks him up to send St. Louis home the World Series victor! Dots Miller goes 2-5 and drives in three to earn POTG honors.

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    D. Miller (2B)        5  2  0  1  0  3  0  0    .259
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    ~THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS ARE YOUR~ ~1918~
    ~WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS~


    The World Series MVP goes to second baseman Del Pratt. Pratt batted .389/.421/.556/.997 with four RBI's and two steals in the series!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    AMERICAN LEAGUE
    STANDINGS AND LEADERS


    STANDINGS


    BATTING LEADERS


    PITCHING LEADERS


    NATIONAL LEAGUE
    STANDINGS AND LEADERS


    STANDINGS


    BATTING LEADERS


    PITCHING LEADERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    EXPIRING CONTRACTS
    1918 OFF-SEASON


    (A) = Arbitration

    Catchers:

    Wally Schang (86), 29 years old

    Schang had an excellent year in 1918. He put up the highest OPS he's had since becoming a starting catcher at .783, and his 38 doubles are as many as he had in the prior three seasons COMBINED. He's also got a hose behind the plate and he blocks a lot of balls. Only problem is, he's gonna be looking for roughly a $7,000 raise for about four years, and I'm not sure about giving four years at $16,000 per to a 29 year old catcher.

    VERDICT - Want to keep, may not be able to.


    Corner Infielders:

    Del Gainer (67), 31 years old

    Really, no incentive for me to keep him. I'll keep him if he'll take less money than he was making before, but if not, he gone.

    VERDICT - Probably gone.

    Frank Baker (78), 32 years old

    He was great after coming over to Boston. He hit at a .330/.372/.446/.818 clip with six homers and 75 RBI's in 114 games. The question is, at 32 years old can he repeat that? His career numbers seem to indicate so. If he doesn't ask for too much of a raise I'll probably hold on to him.

    VERDICT - Probably coming back.

    Heinie Wagner (57), 38 years old

    Yeah, he ain't coming back.

    VERDICT - Donezo


    Middle Infielders:

    Jack Barry (67), 31 years old

    He had an OPS of .626 last season, so that's not good. But regardless, I do want to bring him back, at the right price. I think he'd be good as a bench player and a pinch-runner, and assuming that there's nothing out there for Free Agent second baseman or trade opportunities, he'd probably start again.

    VERDICT - Probably coming back.

    Everett Scott (73/84), 25 years old


    Definitely coming back. One reason being if I decide to let Barry go, he'd probably be my next option at second base. And at worst he's a good fill-in all-around the infield. Not to mention the next guy on this list....

    VERDICT - Coming back.

    (A) Dave Bancroft (84), 27 years old


    So he's arbitration eligible, which is good. The problem, however, is that he's gonna be able to ask for a lot of money. And I'm already gonna have a lot of money going around from what I've already written about and what I have yet to write about. Obviously I really, really want to bring him back, and I probably will, but it's probably gonna be a steep price tag.

    VERDICT - Most likely coming back, albeit very expensively.


    Outfielders:

    Babe Ruth (98), 23 years old

    Yeah, that guy. With the record-breaking year he had it only makes sense that he'll be looking for a record-breaking contract. And I'm definitely gonna give it to him, there's no question about it, he's just gonna break me financially.

    VERDICT - Coming back no matter the cost.

    Harry Hooper (79), 31 years old


    Hooper had the best year of his career. He posted career highs in batting average (.319), slugging percentage (.441), OPS (.831), hits (196), RBI's (71), and doubles (38), so obviously I want to bring him back. But he's 31 years old and I doubt he'll be able to keep up that kind of performance much longer, and I do have some decent alternatives, and I'm sure there will be outfielders available in Free Agency.

    VERDICT - Probably not coming back.


    Pitchers:

    Joe Bush (93/96), 25 years old

    Yep, the team MVP AND Cy Young are up for new contracts this off-season. Obviously I'm keeping him, but he's already making a pretty penny ($18,200 to be exact) and he'll be looking for a hefty raise as well.

    VERDICT - Coming back no matter the cost.

    (A) Carl Mays (93), 26 years old


    He's arbitration eligible, so he'll be coming back, it's just a matter of cost. 1918 was somewhat of a down year for him, so hopefully he won't ask for too much, but in all likelyhood he will.

    VERDICT - Coming back.

    Herb Pennock (92), 24 years old + Dutch Leonard (86), 26 years old


    That's right, the whole starting rotation is up for new contracts. And one of these two guys isn't coming back, especially with Syl Johnson around. I lean toward letting Leonard go due to relative age and talent, but it will probably boil down almost purely to money.

    VERDICT - Hopefully Pennock stays and Leonard goes, but it's anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    Retirements:

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    Nick Altrock (P)           (1905-1918)   82-73   2.64 ERA
    Kaiser Wilhelm (P)         (1910-1918)   56-105  3.44 ERA
    Charley O'Leary (SS)       (1908-1918)  .226 AVG    3 HR   74 SB
    Germany Schaefer (LF)      (1904-1918)  .257 AVG    9 HR  200 SB
    George McBride (SS)        (1905-1918)  .219 AVG    7 HR  132 SB
    Charlie Pick (3B)          (1915-1918)  .248 AVG    0 HR   26 SB
    Nig Clarke (C)             (1911-1918)  .256 AVG    6 HR   15 SB
    Joe Kelly (LF)             (1915-1918)  .227 AVG    6 HR   52 SB
    Chet Chadbourne (CF)       (1914-1918)  .255 AVG    2 HR   73 SB
    Benny Meyer (RF)           (1915-1918)  .265 AVG    7 HR   47 SB
    Oscar Dugey (2B)           (1913-1918)  .194 AVG    1 HR   17 SB
    Fred Carisch (C)           (1911-1918)  .227 AVG    1 HR   16 SB
    Jack Coffey (SS)           (1917-1918)  .187 AVG    0 HR    2 SB
    Frank Truesdale (2B)       (1915-1918)  .217 AVG    1 HR   40 SB
    Ray Demmitt (RF)           (1913-1918)  .251 AVG    6 HR   29 SB
    Hughie Jennings (SS)       (1902-1918)  .311 AVG   18 HR  360 SB
    Tommy Leach (CF)           (1900-1918)  .270 AVG   64 HR  361 SB
    Bill Donovan (P)           (1901-1918)  185-139  2.69 ERA
    Bert Niehoff (2B)          (1913-1918)  .242 AVG   12 HR   69 SB
    Jimmy Archer (C)           (1907-1918)  .252 AVG   16 HR   36 SB
    Davy Jones (LF)            (1904-1918)  .270 AVG    9 HR  207 SB
    Bobby Schang (C)           (1916-1918)  .188 AVG    0 HR    3 SB
    Ham Hyatt (1B)             (1912-1918)  .273 AVG    8 HR   10 SB
    Paddy O'Connor (C)         (1913-1918)  .213 AVG    0 HR    4 SB
    Bobby Wallace (3B)         (1894-1918)  .270 AVG   34 HR  200 SB
    Hi Jasper (P)              (1915-1918)    6-7    3.43 ERA
    Gabby Street (C)           (1911-1918)  .208 AVG    2 HR   17 SB
    Jack Quinn (P)             (1911-1918)   79-73   3.08 ERA
    Morrie Rath (2B)           (1914-1918)  .244 AVG    2 HR   57 SB
    Wally Mattick (CF)         (1916-1918)  .230 AVG    1 HR   18 SB
    Alex Main (P)              (1916-1918)   19-20   2.59 ERA
    Dave Shean (2B)            (1911-1918)  .225 AVG    6 HR   54 SB
    Rip Williams (1B)          (1912-1918)  .269 AVG    2 HR   25 SB
    Jim Thorpe (LF)            (1914-1918)  .225 AVG    5 HR   19 SB
    Doc Johnston (1B)          (1912-1918)  .248 AVG    8 HR   84 SB
    Heinie Wagner (3B)         (1907-1918)  .249 AVG   10 HR  144 SB
    Rudy Sommers (P)           (1916-1918)    2-8    4.02 ERA   2 SV
    Lefty George (P)           (1915-1918)    6-16   4.29 ERA
    Mickey Doolan (SS)         (1906-1918)  .233 AVG   15 HR  169 SB
    Eddie Matteson (P)         (1917-1918)    3-4    2.89 ERA
    Johnny Evers (2B)          (1902-1918)  .271 AVG   12 HR  337 SB
    Roy Mitchell (P)           (1913-1918)   28-35   3.56 ERA
    Lena Blackburne (SS)       (1914-1918)  .210 AVG    2 HR   45 SB
    Bob Bescher (LF)           (1908-1918)  .257 AVG   28 HR  426 SB
    Charley Hall (P)           (1910-1918)   54-46   3.03 ERA
    Chick Keating (SS)         (1917-1918)  .093 AVG    0 HR    1 SB
    Ike McAuley (SS)           (1917-1918)  .167 AVG    0 HR    0 SB
    Fritz Mollwitz (1B)        (1913-1918)  .242 AVG    1 HR   36 SB
    Jack Hammond (2B)          (1917-1918)  .214 AVG    0 HR    0 SB
    George Gibson (C)          (1905-1918)  .236 AVG   15 HR   40 SB
    John Hummel (2B)           (1907-1918)  .251 AVG   30 HR  122 SB
    Babe Adams (P)             (1908-1918)  113-84   2.58 ERA
    Jimmy Austin (3B)          (1909-1918)  .245 AVG   12 HR  228 SB
    Lefty Leifield (P)         (1909-1918)  116-87   2.42 ERA
    Frank Schulte (LF)         (1904-1918)  .270 AVG   92 HR  229 SB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Resignings:

    C Wally Schang (86) signed a 4-year extension at $12,000/yr
    I was really surprised at this one. Originally he was asking for $16,000-17,000, but he accepted my first offer at $12,000, which I was more than happy to give him.

    2B Jack Barry (67) signed a 2-year extension at $4,500/yr
    Less than he made last season, so I was more than happy to give it to him.

    SS Dave Bancroft (84) awarded $13,000 for 1 year
    Just about what I was expecting to give him. He made around $4,000 last year, so that's not too bad I suppose.

    SS Everett Scott (73/84) awarded $4,900 for 1 year
    Almost exactly what he made last year, maybe even a tad less. Needless to say this one didn't hurt.

    LF Babe Ruth (98) awarded $40,000 for 1 year
    That accounts for about 1/4th of my payroll, but he's well worth it. And honestly, I'm a little surprised he didn't ask for more. Next step: sign him to a long-term deal.

    RF Harry Hooper (79) contract expired
    He actually didn't ask for as much as I thought he would, but it was still too rich for my blood.

    C Sam Agnew (69) contract expired
    Didn't say his contract was up before, but regardless, wasn't worth the coin.

    3B Frank Baker (79) contract expired
    He wanted like $15,000, and I didn't want to give him more than like $12,000 so I had to let him go. Maybe if I'm lucky I'll be able to bring him back if no one else signs him throughout the course of the off-season.

    3B Walter Barbare (64) contract expired
    Yeah, didn't know his was up either. But he wasn't worth it to me either.

    1B Del Gainer (67) signed a 2-year extension at $1,100/yr
    Actually less than he made last season, so obviously I was happy to give it to him.

    SP Joe Bush (93/96) signed a 4-year extension at $18,000/yr
    This is actually a little less than what he made last year. Anytime you get an ace to accept a pay DEDUCTION after a great season is always a great thing.

    SP Carl Mays (93) awarded $12,000 for 1 year
    That's only about a $3,000 raise if I'm not mistaken. Not bad at all for a guy who won 21 games last season.

    SP Dutch Leonard (86) contract expired
    The way it ended up Leonard was willing to take a big pay-cut to stay and I probably could have kept him and Pennock, but it still would've put me a little more over-budget than I want to be, so I had to let him go.

    SP Herb Pennock (92) signed a 4-year extension at $11,000/yr
    Quite a bit less than I was expecting him to ask for, not a bad deal at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    American League Award Winners:

    MVP - BOS LF Babe Ruth (.362/.482/.638/1.120, 34 HR, 138 RBI)
    CYA - CLE SP Joe Wood (18-7, 2.71 ERA, 249.1 IP, 205 K, .215 BAA)
    ROTY - CLE LF Riggs Stephenson (.313/.367/.413/.780, 3 HR, 93 RBI)

    GG Pitcher - DET Hooks Dauss
    GG Catcher - BOS Wally Schang
    GG First Baseman - BOS Stuffy McInnis
    GG Second Baseman - BOS Jack Barry
    GG Third Baseman - CHW Buck Weaver
    GG Shortstop - BOS Dave Bancroft
    GG Outfielder - SLB Baby Doll Jacobson
    GG Outfielder - BOS Harry Hooper
    GG Outfielder - NYY Duffy Lewis


    (I have no idea how we won those Gold Gloves. All those guys defensive ratings were rather bad.)


    National League Award Winners:

    MVP - CHC SP Pete Alexander (23-8, 1.97 ERA, 319.0 IP, 170 K, .240 BAA)
    CYA - CHC SP Pete Alexander (23-8, 1.97 ERA, 319.0 IP, 170 K, .240 BAA)
    ROTY - NYG 1B Bill Terry (.320/.355/.463/.818, 6 HR, 81 RBI)

    GG Pitcher - CIN Fred Toney
    GG Catcher - STL Frank Snyder
    GG First Baseman - PIT Wally Pipp
    GG Second Baseman - PIT George Cutshaw
    GG Third Baseman - NYG Heinie Zimmerman
    GG Shortstop - STL Rogers Hornsby
    GG Outfielder - NYG George Burns
    GG Outfielder - CHC Max Flack
    GG Outfielder - CHC Les Mann
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    OFF-SEASON OUTLOOK
    1918


    Holes:

    Third base and outfield

    Due to some decent depth in the minors and on the bench, we actually have no need to address this via free agency or trade. In the outfield we'll be able to plug in the forgotten Amos Strunk to take the departed Harry Hooper's place. As for third base, we have a fellow down at AAA who we will now plan on starting at third base named Ray Grimes. Grimes is a first baseman by nature, but in light of the departure of Baker I've decided to move him across the diamond. He's a butcher defensively no matter what position he plays, but he can hit with the best of 'em.


    We still may bring someone in as insurance in case Grimes doesn't get the job done or he's just too horrific to stomach defensively. The most likely scenario is Gold Glove winner Buck Weaver. Weaver's on the free agent market, has interest in coming to Boston, is reasonably cheap, and provides what Grimes doesn't -- defense.

    The Starting Rotation

    With the departure of Dutch Leonard it effectively creates two holes in the starting rotation. Top prospect Syl Johnson will be bumped up to the #4 slot Leonard was occupying. That leaves the little used #5 starting pitching slot in question. For the moment we're slotting in 30 year old Jean Dubuc. Dubuc has had a solid major league career, and last season at AAA he had an ERA a tick over 2.00 in 18 starts, so he should be able to provide us some solid innings when needed. In the event that he can't, we should have enough depth to cover it. However, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't gonna look into acquiring another established arm like Walter Johnson or Joe Wood or other guys in that upper-echelon of starting pitchers.

    Second base

    Jack Barry has no business being a starting major league second baseman. I don't mind him off the bench, but starting every day isn't happening any more. Fortunately I've decided to address this from within as well. Evertt Scott will be moved from shortstop to second base. His defense doesn't suffer too much by the move, and he actually gains some value offensively due to the position change.


    Contracts:

    LF Babe Ruth

    I definitely have to get this guy signed. There's no doubt he's the best hitter in the game right now, it's not even a discussion, and there's no way he's wearing another uniform between now and the time he's in his late-30's or early-40's (especially not a New York Yankees one ). I'm expecting the contract to be for five or more years, and in excess of $40,000 per year.

    SP Carl Mays

    With Joe Bush and Pennock locked up, it only makes sense to lock up Carl Mays too. He'll probably be looking for four years and at least $10,000 per, probably more like $15,000 per. He's worth it though. He led the team and American League in wins and innings pitched last year, and there's no reason to doubt he'll do that again this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    SOX AND RUTH GET DEAL DONE
    RUTH TO STAY FOR NEXT SEVEN YEARS


    Just days into the off-season we get Ruth to sign an extension at what is probably less than market value. We signed Ruth to a seven year deal, through 1925, at $35,000 per year, which is a little less than what we settled for in arbitration. I was expecting to give him at least $40,000, possibly even as much as $50,000, in signing him to an extension. Needless to say I'm happy with the fact that he was willing to go as low as $35,000. The deal does include a no-trade clause, but I wouldn't want to be tempted to trade him anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    FIRST MONTH OF OFF-SEASON


    Contracts:

    St. Louis Cardinals Sign SP Dutch Leonard and 3B Buck Weaver
    The reigning champs got just a little bit better with these signings. Leonard's deal is 3 years at $12,100 per year, and Weaver is also 3 years at $11,600 per year. The deal gives them a bit more offense as well as addressing a hole at third base, and deepens an already strong starting rotation.

    Braves Sign C Ray Schalk and 3B Frank Baker
    The Braves were reasonably competitive last season, finishing at 74-80, and these signings might just be good enough to help them contend for a Pennant. The signings solidifies their line-up a little more, and they already possess a pitching staff capable of contention. Keep an eye on the Braves next season.

    Phillies Sign Free Agent Gem LF Bobby Veach
    The Phillies land arguably the biggest free agent on the market this off-season in Bobby Veach. Last season Veach hit .335/.380/.476/.856 with six homers and 99 RBI's for the Tigers. They get him for two years at $25,300 per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    SOX SIGN OUTFIELDER
    LEIBOLD TO BOSTON


    We made a minor signing by signing outfielder Nemo Leibold to a two year deal. Leibold is essentially a poor man's Harry Hooper. He provides the same good batting eye and speed Harry did, as well as a great arm. His contact isn't what Harry's was, but we brought him on to be a 4th/5th outfielder anyways, not a starting outfielder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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    Re: Red Sox Memoirs - 1918 Red Sox and On

    SECOND MONTH OF OFF-SEASON


    Contracts:

    New York Yankees sign former Sox outfielder Harry Hooper
    The New York Yankees have signed ex-Red Sox outfielder Harry Hooper to a three year deal at $17,700 per year. Good for them. I think it's a bad signing. Hooper's 31 and I think his best days are behind him.

    Pittsburgh Pirates sign CF Happy Felsch
    The Pittsburgh Pirates signed Happy Felsch to a two year deal at $17,400 per year. Felsch is coming off a season in which he hit .313 and drove in over 100 runs.
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    Ryan is No. 0. He doesn't make the list, since he's clearly on a higher plane of existence than all other quarterbacks, living or dead. He is ... teh messiah.
    I'm not the only one who knows the truth about Matt Ryan.

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