Could they really be fed up with Boras?

[Jeffy25]

Yeah, everyone is so angry at Boras that the same day he lost Felipe Lopez he gained Kendry Morales. Boras just took a HUGE blow. No..wait...

Exactly what I was gonna say.

[grasshopper]

Boras is the best agent in baseball. Period. What is the argument? ARod for 10 years at 30M a year? He broke the the longest contract ever by 3 years. Yes he makes mistakes, but not many. I still think he will have Damon back on the Yanks.

[dps]

ARod for 10 years at 30M a year? He broke the the longest contract ever by 3 years.

Don't know where you get that. Cap Anson signed a 10-year contract before the 1888 season, and George Brett and a few other players had lifetime contracts.

[Jeffy25]

ya, I am not sure where GH is getting the 10 year is a record deal.

The money is...that's for sure.

But not the length.

But Boras does keep breaking his own record for annual value and total value for contracts....he has done it a lot, including all the ways that he has changed the game forever, including the ammy draft.

[haveacigar]

Boras is the best agent in baseball. Period. What is the argument? ARod for 10 years at 30M a year? He broke the the longest contract ever by 3 years. Yes he makes mistakes, but not many. I still think he will have Damon back on the Yanks.

how the heck would that work?

[haveacigar]

its probably the largest contract since free agency started. before, players were pretty much under indefinite team control

[Jeffy25]

its probably the largest contract since free agency started. before, players were pretty much under indefinite team control

Dave Winfield had a 10 year free agency deal.

[grasshopper]

[QUOTEDon't know where you get that. Cap Anson signed a 10-year contract before the 1888 season, and George Brett and a few other players had lifetime contracts.][/QUOTE]

Before 1970, all contracts were for life. In 1972, free agency appeared, 1st in any sport. Check this out - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_v._Kuhn

As for George Brett, he was never offered a 10 year contract. He was offered a 4x4. 4 years negotiable with a 4 year option. The option was never taken, he was re-signed until the end of his career.

ARod is the 1st ever guaranteed 10 year ever. Like Albert Belle, if he cant play next year, he is promised way too much for a long time.

[Jeffy25]

Don't know where you get that. Cap Anson signed a 10-year contract before the 1888 season, and George Brett and a few other players had lifetime contracts.]

Before 1970, all contracts were for life. In 1972, free agency appeared, 1st in any sport. Check this out - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_v._Kuhn

As for George Brett, he was never offered a 10 year contract. He was offered a 4x4. 4 years negotiable with a 4 year option. The option was never taken, he was re-signed until the end of his career.

ARod is the 1st ever guaranteed 10 year ever. Like Albert Belle, if he cant play next year, he is promised way too much for a long time.

In 1981, New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner made headlines by signing Winfield to a 10-year, $23 million ($53,886,197 in current dollar terms) contract, making him the game's highest-paid player. Steinbrenner mistakenly thought he was signing Winfield for $16 million ($37,486,050 in current dollar terms), a misunderstanding that led to the most infamous public feud in baseball history.

from wikipedia*

Dave Winfield had a 10 year free agency deal.

And this was just off the top of my head, I am positive there have been others before A-Rods deal.

[haveacigar]

well there you go.

[ragecage]

Cap Anson that racist ****.

[Jeffy25]

bc of the Ken Burns documentary, I learned that the vast majority of the well known, hall of fame ball players that played back then were all predominately racist...I was kind of shocked by some of the extremes that many famous players thought and acted to avoid playing with blacks.

I should edit that sentence...it's not like they were all racist, I was just surprised by how many well known players have stories about them about their extreme racist beliefs....obviously, not all of them were.

[grasshopper]

And this was just off the top of my head, I am positive there have been others before A-Rods deal.

You are talking about what is now known as guaranteed vs. contract pay. Like in the NFL. Dave Winfield was signed on a long term contract based on performance. No matter the length, he was only guaranteed a certain base plus bonuses. In the end, those contacts were actually 3-4 years and voidable. Ask Dave, otherwise he wouldnt be creeping aroung the MLB network as an analyst. He really didnt make that much.

The 1st 100% huge guaranteed contract was the Orioles to Albert Belle. He played 1.5 years for them, and then made 15M for 2-3? years off them on the golf course. As in, the Os had to pay him full amount even when he wasnt playing. This was the beginning of the decline of Orioles of 90s to the bottom.

There are situations, like Houston after they signed Jeff Bagwell where insurance picks up the end of the contract. He had an extraordinary injury that ended his career. That is tough to get though. Even so, they only pay back a fraction of the contract.

ARod, win play or show, will be making 28.7M when he is 41, no matter what, playing or screwing blondes.

[Jeffy25]

A-Rod's deal is voidable as well, hell he opted out once already.

You said 10 year deal...Winfield was going to get paid regardless for 10 years, he had a base pay for each year.

Same goes with A-Rod...i'm just pointing it out, that there have been other 10 year deals before A-Rods and that Boras didn't make history for the length of the contract.

[Jeffy25]

You are talking about what is now known as guaranteed vs. contract pay. Like in the NFL. Dave Winfield was signed on a long term contract based on performance. No matter the length, he was only guaranteed a certain base plus bonuses. In the end, those contacts were actually 3-4 years and voidable. Ask Dave, otherwise he wouldnt be creeping aroung the MLB network as an analyst. He really didnt make that much.

The 1st 100% huge guaranteed contract was the Orioles to Albert Belle. He played 1.5 years for them, and then made 15M for 2-3? years off them on the golf course. As in, the Os had to pay him full amount even when he wasnt playing. This was the beginning of the decline of Orioles of 90s to the bottom.

There are situations, like Houston after they signed Jeff Bagwell where insurance picks up the end of the contract. He had an extraordinary injury that ended his career. That is tough to get though. Even so, they only pay back a fraction of the contract.

ARod, win play or show, will be making 28.7M when he is 41, no matter what, playing or screwing blondes.

A-Rod will be making 20 million in 2017, not 28.7.

I would suggest reading this site first

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...678860040.html

And I'm pretty sure if he decides to retire before 2018, he won't be getting all of his contract paid to him.

He will make 33 million this year, and if he reaches 660 homers this year, he will get another 6 million, but I don't think he is going to hit 77 homers this year