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    Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Felipe Lopez Fires Scott Boras

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Hell hath no fury like a middle infielder scorned.

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    its Boras' fault no one wants Lopez?

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Quote Originally Posted by gRYFYN1 View Post
    its Boras' fault no one wants Lopez?
    If it's simply a matter of no one wanting him, no. If it's a matter of no one wanting him at the salary that Boras was trying to get for him, then arguably, yes.

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    The whole movement towards teams knowing how to evaluate what to pay players in a much more fine tuned way then before, could be problematic for Boras. Of course some teams still seem to need to catch up, but once all 30 are applying these methods, it is going to become tight for Boras and his money above all else approach. He'll make all kinds of wild, unfounded (though possibly true) accusations of collusion to deflect blame away from himself and his methods and save his ass. He already has a sh!t pile of money though and will always be able to get top dollar for the best performers in their prime. He just may not be able to attract that one sucker team that he needs to take the bait on the lesser performers and past their prime players.
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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Quote Originally Posted by gRYFYN1 View Post
    its Boras' fault no one wants Lopez?
    Its Boras' fault that he's asking/expecting too much and not getting his clients the job security they need, and has been losing his clients both term and millions this offseason because of this.
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    Yeah, everyone is so angry at Boras that the same day he lost Felipe Lopez he gained Kendry Morales. Boras just took a HUGE blow. No..wait...

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet View Post
    Could they really be fed up with Boras?
    Hardly.

    Not every Boras client is going to get what they want. Looking at his list (which is HUGE) of clients on Wikipedia, not everybody is an All-Star either (guys like Lopez), but I would gladly sign with him based on his track record. Felipe Lopez doesn't get signed, but the Cardinals essentially "bid against themselves" on Matt Holliday (with all those "mystery suitors" out there). You win some (big), and you lose some.

    If somebody is bored enough, we could take a look at the remaining free agents out there and who they are represented by. Scott Boras receives the most blame, but in this current economic landscape in Major League Baseball, it's not as if other agents are miracle workers.

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    I think it depends on how high profile you are. Take for instance Matt Holliday and Jason Bay this year. Matt Holliday set the market for OFs this year, so a guy like Jason Bay is sort of like a third wheel. Boras isn't going to care about Jason Bay until he signs Matt Holliday and in a sense is making Holliday his #1 priority.

    Boras is going to screw the occasional player, but the trade off is that he'll get you more money than any other client.


    I also think if you're a terrible defensive player, Boras isn't the agent for you. Teams are clearly valuing defense higher than ever before and from quotes I've read by him he doesn't seem to have a grasp on the defensive metrics and doesn't believe in them and I think it will hurt ihs players. So, a guy like Jermaine Dye or Jason Bay is ultimately going to get hurt by Boras because he's not going to be able to convince most FO's that his client is worth X amount of dollars because of his offensive numbers when he's gonna give you -20 UZR.

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Quote Originally Posted by 200tang View Post
    I think it depends on how high profile you
    I also think if you're a terrible defensive player, Boras isn't the agent for you.
    Boras also isn't for you if you're looking at more than just getting the maximum possible salary, like if playing for a contender or for your hometown/original team is important to you.

    And if you're a marginal/journeyman type, for whom simply getting a roster spot is more urgent than the price, there are agents who are probably a better match for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dps View Post
    Boras also isn't for you if you're looking at more than just getting the maximum possible salary, like if playing for a contender or for your hometown/original team is important to you.

    And if you're a marginal/journeyman type, for whom simply getting a roster spot is more urgent than the price, there are agents who are probably a better match for you.
    thats what I fear about Jair
    I am affraid he will be in the majority (like I probably would be with some exception)
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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Scott Boras' clients:

    Major League:

    * Tony Abreu
    * Nick Adenhart (Deceased)
    * Garret Anderson
    * Rick Ankiel
    * Josh Barfield
    * Carlos Beltrán
    * Adrián Beltré
    * Willie Bloomquist
    * Chris Bootcheck
    * Julio Borbon
    * Chris Coghlan
    * Alex Cora
    * Joe Crede
    * Johnny Damon
    * Chris Davis
    * J. D. Drew
    * Stephen Drew
    * Jacoby Ellsbury
    * Prince Fielder
    * Eric Gagné
    * Carlos Gómez
    * Craig Hansen
    * Runelvys Hernández
    * Luke Hochevar
    * Matt Holliday
    * Edwin Jackson
    * Andruw Jones
    * Jair Jurrjens
    * Ian Kennedy
    * Byung-Hyun Kim
    * Gerald Laird
    * Matt LaPorta
    * Kyle Lohse
    * Mike Gonzalez
    * Rodrigo López
    * Derek Lowe
    * Ryan Madson
    * Daisuke Matsuzaka
    * Kevin Millwood
    * Zach Miner
    * Kendry Morales
    * Xavier Nady
    * David Newhan
    * Magglio Ordóñez
    * Micah Owings
    * Corey Patterson
    * John Patterson
    * Mike Pelfrey
    * Carlos Peña
    * Óliver Pérez
    * Guillermo Quiróz
    * Manny Ramirez
    * Anthony Reyes
    * Alex Rodriguez
    * Iván Rodríguez
    * Dane Sardinha
    * Max Scherzer
    * Scott Schoeneweis
    * Bobby Seay
    * Julián Tavárez
    * Taylor Teagarden
    * Mark Teixeira
    * Jason Varitek
    * Ron Villone
    * Jarrod Washburn
    * Jeff Weaver
    * Jered Weaver
    * Brad Wilkerson
    * Barry Zito
    * Matt Wieters

    Minor League:

    * Dustin Ackley
    * Pedro Alvarez
    * Jake Arrieta
    * Jeremy Bleich
    * Andrew Brackman
    * Jason Donald
    * Allan Dykstra
    * Danny Espinosa
    * Josh Fields
    * Danny Duffy
    * Jon Gaston
    * Tyler Greene
    * Mark Hamilton
    * Blake Hawksworth
    * Eric Hosmer
    * Brandon Laird
    * Mark McCormick
    * Mike Moustakas
    * Mark Pawelek
    * Wynn Pelzer
    * Mike Rozier
    * Stephen Strasburg
    * Donavan Tate
    * Jacob Turner
    * Carlos Triunfel
    * Angel Villalona

    Amateur:

    * Bryce Harper
    * Nick Maronde

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    Angel Villalona hardly counts, seeing as he was deported for alledgedly murdering somebody in the Dominican Republic.
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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Quote Originally Posted by gosensgo101 View Post
    Angel Villalona hardly counts, seeing as he was deported for alledgedly murdering somebody in the Dominican Republic.
    Boras still get a cut of the ten cents a day that Villalona gets paid by the Dominican prison system.

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    Re: Could they really be fed up with Boras?

    Boras is the only one that gets noticed. When other agents get hired/fired no one bats an eye. I assume this is not an uncommon occurrence it just the only ones that get reported on.
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