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    Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Min requirements.

    Had to play in the modern era
    Had to play at least 900 games in left

    9. Raines
    8. Kiner
    7. A. Simmons
    6. Yaz
    5. Manny R.
    4. Rickey Henderson
    3. Stan Musial
    2. Barry Bonds
    1. Ted Williams

    My order
    Kiner
    Simmons
    Raines
    Manny R
    Yastrzemski
    Rickey Henderson
    Ted Williams
    Stan Musial
    Barry Bonds


    First three are interchangeable.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Jason Bay - #1

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    My top 9 when I did this a year or so ago:

    1. Ted Williams
    2. Stan Musial
    3. Rickey Henderson
    4. Ed Delahanty
    5. Carl Yastrzemski
    6. Tim Raines
    7. Jesse Burkett
    8. Al Simmons
    9. Fred Clarke


    Bonds would be first. Manny would be somewhere around Raines/Burkett.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by 200tang View Post
    Jason Bay - #1
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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Rickey Henderson is the best leftfielder of all time if Barry Bonds, Ted Williams, and Stan Musial did not exist
    All I do is Lin Lin Lin

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    David Nied wants a word with all of you.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    Min requirements.

    Had to play in the modern era
    Had to play at least 900 games in left

    9. Raines
    8. Kiner
    7. A. Simmons
    6. Yaz
    5. Manny R.
    4. Rickey Henderson
    3. Stan Musial
    2. Barry Bonds
    1. Ted Williams

    My order
    Kiner
    Simmons
    Raines
    Manny R
    Yastrzemski
    Rickey Henderson
    Ted Williams
    Stan Musial
    Barry Bonds


    First three are interchangeable.
    how far back does this era go???

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    how far back does this era go???
    Modern Era generally means post-1901

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by FloydtheBarber View Post
    Modern Era generally means post-1901
    thats always been my understanding too. some on HGM's list threw me off.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    thats always been my understanding too. some on HGM's list threw me off.
    My list was all-time, sorry.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    curious where you all rank Shoeless in this discussion. i havne't looked at this closely, but for the life of me i can't see how shoeless would be below raines.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    curious where you all rank Shoeless in this discussion.
    I did my rankings of the Hall of Merit inductees and they have Jackson listed as a right fielder (584 games in left, 145 in center, 559 in right) and I ranked him 13th there:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Hank Aaron
    3. Mel Ott
    4. Frank Robinson
    5. Paul Waner
    6. Pete Rose
    7. Al Kaline
    8. Sam Crawford
    9. Reggie Jackson
    10. Roberto Clemente
    11. Tony Gwynn
    12. King Kelly
    13. Joe Jackson


    Left field has less competition. If I ranked him with the left fielders, I'd put him in the Raines/Manny/Burkett class.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    I did my rankings of the Hall of Merit inductees and they have Jackson listed as a right fielder (584 games in left, 145 in center, 559 in right) and I ranked him 13th there:

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Hank Aaron
    3. Mel Ott
    4. Frank Robinson
    5. Paul Waner
    6. Pete Rose
    7. Al Kaline
    8. Sam Crawford
    9. Reggie Jackson
    10. Roberto Clemente
    11. Tony Gwynn
    12. King Kelly
    13. Joe Jackson


    Left field has less competition. If I ranked him with the left fielders, I'd put him in the Raines/Manny/Burkett class.
    i assume he's getting a rather large deduction due to lack of longevity? I think 13 seasons are enough to merit him along with the others. Are you considering longevity, or performance on average? I can't see how someone like Gwynn for starters would rank higher...unless of course thats merely because he played longer.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    one could even argue that taking Shoeless's total career and matching it up against Rose's best 12-13 years would be an easy pick of shoeless.

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    Re: Prime 9's All time Top Leftfielders of all time

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    i assume he's getting a rather large deduction due to lack of longevity? I think 13 seasons are enough to merit him along with the others. Are you considering longevity, or performance on average? I can't see how someone like Gwynn for starters would rank higher...unless of course thats merely because he played longer.
    I rank based on a combination of career and peak value.

    Jackson didn't really play 13 seasons. He played IN 13 seasons. He played 9 full seasons. In the other 4 seasons, he didn't play more than 20 games in any of them.

    I'd rank Jackson above Kelly if I redid this. He's close enough to Gwynn that I wouldn't quibble with anybody that ranked him over Gwynn, but I think having just 9 full seasons, albeit great, keeps him out of the top 10 (of right fielders. Of left fielders, I think he's in the top 10).

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