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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Let's put big money on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloydtheBarber View Post
    HGM lost it all getting owned at Poker
    I did once, going from $96 to $2 in a week or so. Made it all back though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    116 games of performance wildly out of line with anything he's ever done previously is not evidence.
    If he can do it for 116 why can't he do it for 162?? He's a prime time performer. Saves his best for the bg stage of MLB. Plus he will be healthy(Had knee surgery to fix ligaments that bothered him all year) and hopefully play only 1 position. (3B I hope)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleWie View Post
    If he can do it for 116 why can't he do it for 162?? He's a prime time performer. Saves his best for the bg stage of MLB. Plus he will be healthy(Had knee surgery to fix ligaments that bothered him all year) and hopefully play only 1 position. (3B I hope)
    Because those 116 games were very likely a fluke. He was never a top prospect and his career high minor league OPS is .774. Chances are, he didn't suddenly sprout into a .859 OPS hitter in the bigs.

    I don't know why he would "save his best for the big stage of MLB." If this is truly his actual talent level, why hasn't he shown it before in order to get to the big leagues quicker? Why did he wait until he was 26?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Because those 116 games were very likely a fluke. He was never a top prospect and his career high minor league OPS is .774. Chances are, he didn't suddenly sprout into a .859 OPS hitter in the bigs.

    I don't know why he would "save his best for the big stage of MLB." If this is truly his actual talent level, why hasn't he shown it before in order to get to the big leagues quicker? Why did he wait until he was 26?
    Because he's clutch.
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    Are you just trolling or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Are you just trolling or what?
    *sigh* Here we go again, anybody who disagrees with Houston is a troll
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleWie View Post
    *sigh* Here we go again, anybody who disagrees with Houston is a troll
    No. "Because he's clutch" has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, unless "clutch" means "would rather wallow in the minors until he's 26 than make it to the majors." It seems like you have nothing to fall back on to support your opinion (which is fine) so instead bring up silly buzzwords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    No. "Because he's clutch" has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, unless "clutch" means "would rather wallow in the minors until he's 26 than make it to the majors." It seems like you have nothing to fall back on to support your opinion (which is fine) so instead bring up silly buzzwords.
    Why is everything a big argument with you? I always laugh at how MG baits you in silly arguments. Even though you know he's just messing with you, you just can't walk away. It's like an addiction you have or something. You can't predict the future anymore than me. Minor leagues stats mean nothing to me. McGhee is a beast. One of the most underrated players in MLB. I think it's funny how everyone writes him off because he was never a big prospect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleWie View Post
    Why is everything a big argument with you? I always laugh at how MG baits you in silly arguments. Even though you know he's just messing with you, you just can't walk away. It's like an addiction you have or something. You can't predict the future anymore than me. Minor leagues stats mean nothing to me. McGhee is a beast. One of the most underrated players in MLB. I think it's funny how everyone writes him off because he was never a big prospect.
    I enjoy discussing baseball. I'm not trying to have a big argument here, just a baseball discussion. Everyone "writes him off" because minor league stats, while they may mean nothing you, absolutely do mean something when it comes to proper player evaluation. I will, on average, wind up predicting the future better than you if you ignore huge amounts of data while I take all the data into account.

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    I think McGehee will be an okay player. Eyeballing an average of a few projection systems puts him around .270/.330/.420, which is more in line with his previous performance. Not a terrible player, but not close to the top tier of third basemen which is where you'd be putting him if you think he'll repeat his 2009 stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    I enjoy discussing baseball. I'm not trying to have a big argument here, just a baseball discussion. Everyone "writes him off" because minor league stats, while they may mean nothing you, absolutely do mean something when it comes to proper player evaluation. I will, on average, wind up predicting the future better than you if you ignore huge amounts of data while I take all the data into account.
    Yeah because every player with good minor league stats turn into super stars at the MLB level. Sure minor league stats count more than MLB stats. Sure. His MLB stats over 116 games are more important than whatever minor league stats are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichelleWie View Post
    Yeah because every player with good minor league stats turn into super stars at the MLB level. Sure minor league stats count more than MLB stats. Sure. His MLB stats over 116 games are more important than whatever minor league stats are.
    When did I ever say any of this?

    I'm sorry that I'm challenging your opinion, but apparently you don't wish to actually have a civil discussion about it. Whatevs.

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