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    Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    The guy that said the Cardinals had virtually no shot at resigning Holliday, that the Cardinals would resign Pinero for sure, and not DeRosa even. The guy that is hardly ever correct, yet still holds a very high level of respect from the baseball community. He is on mlb network all the time, and he voices opinions that are routinely incorrect.

    not to mention his belief that Blyleven isn't a hall of famer and Morris is.

    Well he said this on the Cardinals a couple of weeks ago, and I was disgusted when he said it, but now he wrote about it.

    He says that "Albert is most certainly seeking at least 30 million" in a future extension with the Cardinals and that St. Louis won't be able to come up with that.

    here is the link:
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...uer/index.html

    Not only has this NEVER been said in any interviews with Albert, but has never even been implied!

    Albert has never come close to saying anything. The only things he has said was earlier this off-season when he was approached by the team seeing if he would consider discussing an extension yet, he basically said it was too early....because he has TWO years left! I completely understand that, and if I was Albert, why would i remove that luxury of finding out what the team will do for at least another season? Albert hasn't said anything else, not a thing about money, what he thinks he should make, or what he wants to make. He hasn't discussed A-rod money, or what he is worth on the open market. He has said he likes playing in st. louis would like the idea of retiring as a cardinal. That doesn't mean really a lot. A lot of players say that. Where does Heyman pull this **** out from?

    Let's also add the that Cardinals have similar revenue as the Phillies, who have a payroll in the neighborhood of 140 a year. The Cardinals have been consistently 40-50 a year less while housing near, or at least close to the same revenue. It would be hard to believe that the Cardinals wouldn't have the means to resign Albert after giving Holliday his extension...Especially since we are looking at entering 2010 with the same payroll as 2009.

    It should be pretty obvious where Pujols' position lies, as he's surely seeking a deal for $30 million a year.
    Jon, where the **** are you coming up with this? Are you assuming this?

    This article wasn't as bad as what all he said in his mlb network interview....but it still frustrates me. I don't see Albert going for, or getting his 30 million. 22-26 a year? Sure...and I can see St. Louis paying that.

    30....very doubtful, what A-Rod makes on a team that has double the payroll won't have much of an effect on Albert....a guy more interested in winning I personally believe.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Jon Heyman is a an awful, awful pile of useless.
    He spent the whole winter meeting spewing endless bull.
    He must know some powerful higher-ups because he has contributed nothing useful to any rumor or discussion.
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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Heyman has rocks for brains and is a mouthpiece for Scott Boras

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    ....a guy more interested in winning I personally believe.
    then he should become a Yankee
    Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Heyman has rocks for brains and is a mouthpiece for Scott Boras
    why don't you stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel about Heyman HGM??
    Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Heyman has rocks for brains and is a mouthpiece for Scott Boras
    I have noticed he seems to be the first to know about a Boras signing though. you are right.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    I have noticed he seems to be the first to know about a Boras signing though. you are right.
    http://baseballanalysts.com/archives...n_breaks_a.php
    While Boras is no fool, Heyman is a tool for the Scott Boras Corporation. Boras knows how to game the system to get the best deals for his clients and will gladly use Heyman as long as the latter plays along or until the market realizes what is going on. As it stands now, it's almost as if Heyman, who is no stranger to the Boras suites during the winter meetings, is on the SBC payroll.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    well where did the Orioles rumor come from this year for example?

    MacPhail certainly dismissed it.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Well Heyman will toss out a rumor at the drop of a pin.
    It's almost like he hears the Toronto GM say that Pujols is a good guy and suddenly writes "Hear that Toronto is in talks with Cardinals about Pujols!"

    Boras is a smart, smart man. He knows if he gives Heyman just a little sniff of actual truth that Heyman will run with it forever.
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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    well where did the Orioles rumor come from this year for example?

    MacPhail certainly dismissed it.
    I don't know if Heyman was the one to break that rumor, but if so, it's not out of the realm of possibility that it came from Boras simply to increase interest in his client.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    HAC was telling me that another forum he frequents found out just how easy it is to start a rumor of any kind. Just tell one place that doesn't check sources and the rest will follow.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    Quote Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989 View Post
    HAC was telling me that another forum he frequents found out just how easy it is to start a rumor of any kind. Just tell one place that doesn't check sources and the rest will follow.
    I bet you're trying to start a rumor and HAC really didn't say that! Gonna double check to be sure.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    This is what OD is talking about:

    http://bluegraysky.blogspot.com/2009...19063071457519
    Illini.

    Yeah I need a Winn-Dixie grocery bag full of money right next to the VIP section...

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    This guy had a decent comment under mlbtraderumors on Heyman's "evidence"

    Heyman also says in the article that the Cardinals revenues are close to the Phillies, whose payroll is $140 million. It seems likely that the Cardinals have been holding back somewhat in preparation for increasing payroll in the next few years.

    Heyman doesn't offer any reason to say that Pujols is "surely seeking $30 million" despite Pujols repeated comments that he is not interested in maxing out the dollars. I think Pujols has repeatedly shown the same attitude about his contract that Mauer has, so I don't understand why Heyman thinks Mauer is likely to take a hometown discount while Pujols is not. Pujols lived in Missouri before being drafted by the Cardinals and is an entrenched member of the St. Louis community. He will be a Cardinal for the rest of his career.

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    Re: Another Reason Why I can't Stand Jon Heyman

    another comment

    Thank goodness for that, at least we won't have to hear one of Heyman's senseless tweets about what Boras says when those guys are Free Agents.

    Notice how Heyman is making these claims about a Boras client in Damon having an offer from the Braves and Giants, but no one knows the numbers, guess who must have told him about these offters, Scott Boras himself. Heyman is a first rate tosser.

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