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    The Language of FanGraphs

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...e-of-fangraphs
    Acronyms I say:

    FIP - rhymes with hip.
    wOBA - woah-buh, emphasis on first syllable, rhymes with toga (sort of?).
    SLG - slug, like the animal.
    BABIP - bab-ip, rhymes with nothing, no idea why I say this.
    ISO - eye-so, this is actually a word, so that helps.
    WHIP - pronounced like Indy's weapon
    LOB% - lob percentage, said like its the rate of soft-tossed pitches
    WAR - said like a really big fight

    Acronyms I spell:

    E-R-A - not sure why I don't say era, like a period of time, but I don't.
    O-B-P - are you down with OBP? Yeah, you know me.
    O-P-S - not ops, as in operation, and never heard it said that way.
    U-Z-R - someone once called it "oozer", and I tried not to laugh.
    W-P-A - can't even figure out how I would say this? "whoop-a?"
    W-R-A-A - no way I'm going to say "were-aahh" to someone.

    So, that's my list. I know everyone does it differently, though, so I'm curious, which ones do you spell and which ones do you say? And does anyone have any idea why?
    Purely coincidental, I guess, but I pronounce all the acronyms the same as Dave Cameron does, except wOBA, which I spell out.

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    I don't think I've ever had the occasion to utter any of these aloud.

    But in my head, i match, except wOBA as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by gleklufdshlaw View Post
    Unfortunately, I do not have all the answers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alloutwar View Post
    I don't think I've ever had the occasion to utter any of these aloud.

    But in my head, i match, except wOBA as well.
    I haven't said much of them aloud, as well, but that's how I pronounce them in my head when I'm reading.

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Hm. ERA I spell out; WHIP I pronounce as the word "whip"; most of the others I actualy say the full term if I'm speaking aloud, i.e., for OBP I say "on-base percentage".

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    I say woah-buh in my head too :3

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    In my head it is woah-buh, like Cameron, but ops (one syllable) or ops-plus, which is apparently different.

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Quote Originally Posted by kenny1234 View Post
    In my head it is woah-buh, like Cameron, but ops (one syllable) or ops-plus, which is apparently different.
    Yeah, it's different. OPS is on-base percentage plus slugging percentage. For example, if your stat line is .340/.402/.519, your OPS is .921 (.402+.519=.921, unless my math skills have deteriorated a lot more than I think). OPS+ is essentially your OPS compared to the league average, with some adjustments (park effects mostly, though not all sources calculate the numbers exactly the same).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dps View Post
    Yeah, it's different. OPS is on-base percentage plus slugging percentage. For example, if your stat line is .340/.402/.519, your OPS is .921 (.402+.519=.921, unless my math skills have deteriorated a lot more than I think). OPS+ is essentially your OPS compared to the league average, with some adjustments (park effects mostly, though not all sources calculate the numbers exactly the same).
    I think kenny meant "different from how Cameron says it".

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    I think kenny meant "different from how Cameron says it".
    Oops.


    BTW, oops isn't a sabermetric stat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dps View Post
    Oops.


    BTW, oops isn't a sabermetric stat.
    Opponents OPS

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Here is where the creator of wOBA got his inspiration for the name: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYnqbdo2jw

    He discusses it here:

    Q: wOBA, huh? Every time I see this stat, or even think about it, I will always think of this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maYnq...eature=related

    A: Busted.

    You are the first person to mention this to me. I watched alot of Sesame Street with my boy, and that song was *definitely* a reason that I named it wOBA. I wanted to give the name something light. I used to call it lwtsOBA or lwtsOBP (for linear weights), and I was thinking of also wOBP. But, wOBA worked for the name, and making it match to the song was my little secret.

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...e-of-fangraphs

    Purely coincidental, I guess, but I pronounce all the acronyms the same as Dave Cameron does, except wOBA, which I spell out.
    I match on them all except wOBA and UZR. UZR I pronounce "oozier"

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    I almost posted this, then I didn't.

    I was going to have a poll because I can't fathom that people don't SAY "OPS"

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    I was going to have a poll because I can't fathom that people don't SAY "OPS"
    What do you mean?

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    Re: The Language of FanGraphs

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...e-of-fangraphs

    Purely coincidental, I guess, but I pronounce all the acronyms the same as Dave Cameron does, except wOBA, which I spell out.
    I am the same way as you then.

    Imagine if announcers started saying era - like it was a general amount of time and not letters?

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