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Well, I think it's fair to "ignore" those seasons for the purposes of Cooperstown, if the player's body of work outside of it is impressive enough. Basically, I don't think a player can "play his way out" of the Hall. I don't blame players for hanging on...I blame the teams for continuing to play them at their detriment.Originally Posted by actionjackson
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Agreed. I can't blame Gary Sheffield for wanting to take $27m for playing at a replacement level for the last two seasons. I can blame the Tigers and Mets for paying him.
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The Tigers gave him that money when he was well above a replacement level. The Mets didn't pay him at all.
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How can I see the career WAR numbers for players?
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The Tigers gave him that money in the hope that he'd be above replacement level - but that wasn't a great bet.
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makes me sad to see that my fav player of all time probably didn't earn enough to be a true hall of famer.
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65-70 is a fair spot for borderline hall of famer's id say
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I'm not so sure of that. Earlier in the thread, when Scott Rolen's name was brought up, I was thinking that he won't get in unless he sticks around to pad his counting totals, and if he does stick around that long, he'll probably kill his percentages badly enough to keep him out anyway.
Of course, that might not be the same situation you had in mind; I supposed you can say that Rolen can't "'play his way out" of the Hall if he wasn't already good enough to be considered likely to get in in the first place.
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It's possible for a player to 'play himself out" in the sense that it ruins his ACTUAL chances of getting in, but my post was regarding my personal opinion of whether or not a guy belongs.
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Ah. That's different--I thought you were talking about his actual chances.
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Going in as an Expo
an he requested to go in as a Cubbie
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Right choice. He got in based on in large part because he was a "five tool player", and he had lost 2 of those tools by the time he became Cub. He was a much better player with the Expos and he played with the Expos longer.
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and set nothing as a Cubbie if I can guess correctly.
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