View Poll Results: Do the Steinbrenner's reinvest

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Thread: Yankees spending habits

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    Yankees spending habits

    I know that no one knows but I'm discussing this with my Yankee-lover friend.

    The Yankees make A LOT of money.

    The Yankees spend A LOT of money.

    Everyone always says "every team wishes they had Steinbrenner as an owner". But is this true? Do we know that the Stenibrenners put a higher percentage of money back into the Yankees? Or are the Yankees the Yankees ($200 million payroll) just because they are the Yankees ($bizillion in revenue)?

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    I just assumed that they do, but I'm not sure. Interesting point, though.

    I wonder if the ratio of profit to expense for the Yankees would be higher or lower when compared to, say, the Pirates. Something interesting to dig up.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    from 2008

    Code:
    Yankees: Revenue was 375,000,000
    Payroll was 201,449,189
    Angels Revenue was 212,000,000
    Payroll was 113,709,000
    Phillies Revenue was 216,000,000
    Payroll was 113,004,046
    Red Sox Revenue was 269,000,000
    Payroll was 121,745,999
    Dodgers Revenue was 241,000,000
    Payroll was 100,414,592
    Cubs Revenue was 239,000,000
    Payroll was 134,809,000
    Mets Revenue was 261,000,000
    Payroll was 149,373,987

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Yankees Payroll = $200 million

    Pirates Payroll = $48 million

    So, for the Yankees to 'reinvest' at a higher rate than the Pirates the Yankees would have to have revenue of roughly 4 times the Pirates.

    That doesn't pass the smell test to me

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by free2131 View Post
    I just assumed that they do, but I'm not sure. Interesting point, though.

    I wonder if the ratio of profit to expense for the Yankees would be higher or lower when compared to, say, the Pirates. Something interesting to dig up.
    HGM posted a link a while back that showed what percentage each team spends of their revenue on payroll.

    Yankees were one of, if not the highest, percentage, while teams like Minnesota, Pitt, San Diego, and even St. Louis were on the lower end.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    I slightly remember that link. I'd like to see it again

    I HIGHLY doubt that that revenue number for the Yankees includes ALL yankee related Revenue. Probably that's true of most teams

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    HGM posted a link a while back that showed what percentage each team spends of their revenue on payroll.
    http://www.subtraction.com/2009/11/0...nkees-spending

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    I slightly remember that link. I'd like to see it again

    I HIGHLY doubt that that revenue number for the Yankees includes ALL yankee related Revenue. Probably that's true of most teams
    I'm looking for the link, having a hard time digging it up.

    and of course there are other revenues for some teams....The Yankees for example own the YES network, the Cardinals own the local radio station and other things as well. But just gate revenue, that is what the link has.......i'll keep looking.












    and now I see HGM re-shared it.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    I HIGHLY doubt that that revenue number for the Yankees includes ALL yankee related Revenue. Probably that's true of most teams
    This.

    I wonder if the it also takes into account the revenue sharing.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    here it is
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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by free2131 View Post
    This.

    I wonder if the it also takes into account the revenue sharing.
    Many teams, and many owners usually have other investments that they earn income off of.....Most teams could probably double their on field payroll and probably could be fine....but that would of course kill their profits and wouldn't necessarily be a good choice.

    As long as the team is still making money, they should be investing all that they can to make their on field product as good as possible. Winning does bring in fans...and you aren't going to win without at least some payroll.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    The thing is, other teams HAVE the money, but they do not spend it. There are some owners who are these raking in much more than Steinbrenner, but they are afraid to spend it.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by yanks27 View Post
    The thing is, other teams HAVE the money, but they do not spend it. There are some owners who are these raking in much more than Steinbrenner, but they are afraid to spend it.
    Any proof?

    I legitimately don't know if you are right or wrong.

    I'd guess that you are wrong, but that's just a guess

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Any proof?

    I legitimately don't know if you are right or wrong.

    I'd guess that you are wrong, but that's just a guess
    I agree.

    but there is some level of proof.

    When you rank the owners overall financial portfolio's Steinbrenner is one of the least rich, while the Twins Owner (recently died I think) was by far the wealthiest.

    But that is because of other endeavors usually. The Twins owner owns a lot of things in Minnesota, not just the Twins. But with any business, the owner isn't going to spend more in one investment than what it earns. I don't care how rich you are, you don't want to lose money just so you can have a good baseball team, but someone like Steinbrenner might want to.

    I imagine the Yankees profit margin annually isn't as high as some teams, although they keep increasing their revenue by winning more and more. The more you win, the more you can charge and the more people that are going to come see you play, buy merchandise etc.

    Just like any business, you have to spend money to make money. You hire a GM to figure out what the best strategy on how that money should be spent.

    I need to find the list of each owners portfolio's...but Steinbrenner isn't leading that list, and it isn't really that close....in fact the owner of the Marlins is one of the richest I believe as well. Steinbrenner owns some real estate, and of course, the Yankees, which are valued over 1 billion currently.

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    Re: Yankees spending habits

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...incipal_owners

    you can at least select the owners and see their net worth if you want to.

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