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    9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    This included modern baseball 1901-?

    one season per player

    9. 1997 Mike Piazza
    8. 1908 Honus Wagner
    7. 1927 Lou Gehrig
    6. 1956 Mickey Mantle
    5. 1911 Ty Cobb
    4. 1922 Rogers Hornsby
    3. 2001 Barry Bonds
    2. 1941 Ted Williams
    1. 1921 Babe Ruth


    Why is Piazza's 97 on here? Didn't Mauer just have a similar season?

    I would like to throw in Musial's 48 in there somewhere if possible

    Anyway, this is to spark debates...so go ahead.

    Here are the top 50 single season OPS+ seasons

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    Rank 	Player (age that year) 	Adjusted OPS+	Year	Bats
    1.	Barry Bonds (37)	268	2002	L
    2.	Barry Bonds (39)	263	2004	L
    3.	Barry Bonds (36)	259	2001	L
    4.	Fred Dunlap (25)	258	1884	R
    5.	Babe Ruth+ (25)	256	1920	L
    6.	Babe Ruth+ (26)	239	1921	L
     	Babe Ruth+ (28)	239	1923	L
    8.	Ted Williams+ (22)	235	1941	L
    9.	Ted Williams+ (38)	233	1957	L
    10.	Ross Barnes (26)	231	1876	R
     	Barry Bonds (38)	231	2003	L
    12.	Babe Ruth+ (31)	227	1926	L
    13.	Babe Ruth+ (32)	226	1927	L
    14.	Pete Browning (21)	222	1882	R
     	Rogers Hornsby+ (28)	222	1924	R
     	Mickey Mantle+ (25)	222	1957	B
    17.	Lou Gehrig+ (24)	221	1927	L
    18.	Babe Ruth+ (29)	220	1924	L
    19.	Babe Ruth+ (24)	219	1919	L
    20.	Babe Ruth+ (36)	218	1931	L
    21.	Ted Williams+ (23)	217	1942	L
    22.	Mark McGwire (34)	216	1998	R
    23.	Ted Williams+ (27)	215	1946	L
    24.	Jeff Bagwell (26)	213	1994	R
    25.	Tip O'Neill (29)	211	1887	R
     	Babe Ruth+ (35)	211	1930	L
     	Frank Thomas (26)	211	1994	R
    28.	Mickey Mantle+ (24)	210	1956	B
    29.	Ty Cobb+ (30)	209	1917	L
     	Rogers Hornsby+ (29)	209	1925	R
     	Willie McCovey+ (31)	209	1969	L
    32.	Lou Gehrig+ (31)	208	1934	L
     	Babe Ruth+ (33)	208	1928	L
    34.	Rogers Hornsby+ (26)	207	1922	R
    35.	Dan Brouthers+ (28)	206	1886	L
     	Ty Cobb+ (23)	206	1910	L
     	Mickey Mantle+ (29)	206	1961	B
    38.	Barry Bonds (27)	205	1992	L
     	Jimmie Foxx+ (24)	205	1932	R
     	Nap Lajoie+ (29)	205	1904	R
     	Honus Wagner+ (34)	205	1908	R
     	Ted Williams+ (28)	205	1947	L
    43.	Barry Bonds (28)	204	1993	L
    44.	George Brett+ (27)	203	1980	L
     	Lou Gehrig+ (27)	203	1930	L
     	Dave Orr (25)	203	1885	R
     	Sammy Sosa (32)	203	2001	R
    48.	Orator Shaffer (32)	202	1884	L
    49.	Dan Brouthers+ (27)	201	1885	L
     	Norm Cash (26)	201	1961

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    Adjusted for position, Piazza's 1997 belongs there probably. Mauer's season was amazing, but, offensively, Piazza's 1997 is a step above it.

    If it's not adjusted for position, which I'm assuming it shouldn't be, Piazza's doesn't belong, obviously.

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Adjusted for position, Piazza's 1997 belongs there probably. Mauer's season was amazing, but, offensively, Piazza's 1997 is a step above it.

    If it's not adjusted for position, which I'm assuming it shouldn't be, Piazza's doesn't belong, obviously.
    Agree....And if it is adjusted per position, then Hornsby and Wagner's seasons look even better.

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    Joe Mauer's 2009 VORP (which is offensive compared to positional replacement level) was 91. Mike Piazza's 1997 was 102.4.

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    This is the OPS+ rankings Jeffy provided based on the guidlines provided (1901-present and 1 season per player)

    9. Thomas 1994 211
    8. Bagwell 1994 213
    7. McGwire 1998 216
    6. Gehrig 1927 221
    5. Mantle 1957 222
    4. Hornsby 1924 222
    3. Williams 1941 235
    2. Ruth 1920 256
    1. Bonds 2002 268
    Last edited by Rexington; 12-29-2009 at 02:42 AM. Reason: Decided to include OPS+

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    McGwire hit 70 home runs in a season. How that doesn't make the top 9, I have no idea.
    Illini.

    Yeah I need a Winn-Dixie grocery bag full of money right next to the VIP section...

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    Quote Originally Posted by haveacigar View Post
    McGwire hit 70 home runs in a season. How that doesn't make the top 9, I have no idea.
    his 98 season was incredible....but there are several seasons better.

    Not sure if you were being serious, or joking....either way, it was a great season, but I don't see it as a top 9 all time season.

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    Re: 9 Individual Offensive seasons of all time - Prime 9

    There were several seasons better if you don't have the "one season per player" stipulation. I think it's easily in the top 9 once you add that rule.

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