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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    I think caps on draft kids. The draft has been harmed more than improved by giving bonus' to these kids. Just like how players earn league min salaries until arbitration, the bonus's should be the same based on draft position, to allow these smaller market teams a chance to build up and not worrying about over paying for a top pick who may or may not ever pan out.

    If the kids work hard, and eventually make it to the show, than they will make some good money. No need for an overall salary cap if you do something like this.
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    Word up to this, just add in the gangly 16 year olds or those from outside the US who have not played pro ball at any level, and I'll go all in for this and then we can keep idiotic salary caps on MLB payrolls out of the game. Let Scott Boras pull his negotiation stunts and print up his 300 page novels extolling the virtues of players who have actually done something.
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    and let's have an international draft! haha, if we are still making wishes.

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    I'm against draft caps. There isn't one draft or international salary (Japanese imports excepted) that isn't capable of being paid by every single team. The Royals just spent $6 million on Jason Kendall. $6 million is the upper reaches of most amateur contracts. The year the Pirates spent $10 million and Rajai Davis on Matt Morris, they took Daniel Moskos over Matt Wieters because of signability - and Wieters signed for less than $10 million. It's not the contracts that prevent small market teams from signing top amateurs. It's their own stupidity. A draft budget - this is for the WHOLE draft - doesn't normally need to be more than $10-15 million. Every team has that and if they don't, they need to wise up and stop spending that on over the hill veterans.

    It's not even like the big market teams have the international market cornered or are the only teams signing big ticket amateur draftees. The largest international amateur contract so far? Michael Ynoa with the A's. The largest amateur draft contract? Stephen Strasburg with the Nationals.

    For most of the kids in the draft, it's their ONLY chance to get paid their market value, as most will never reach the majors, let alone 6 years of service time. An amateur draft cap, just like a salary cap, is just another way of artificially controlling the costs of players (ie. keeping money in the pockets of the owners).

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    another bad deal for ny. Cashman is an IDIOT!!!!!

    Every move this off season for the Yankees has been TRASH! Besides Nick Johnson and letting Matsui go
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpz17 View Post
    another bad deal for ny. Cashman is an IDIOT!!!!!

    Every move this off season for the Yankees has been TRASH! Besides Nick Johnson and letting Matsui go
    how is this a bad deal for the Yankees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpz17 View Post
    another bad deal for ny. Cashman is an IDIOT!!!!!

    Every move this off season for the Yankees has been TRASH! Besides Nick Johnson and letting Matsui go
    Wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Wtf?
    He loves melky and austin jackson and is mad to see them go, even though the team is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing6 View Post
    He loves melky and austin jackson and is mad to see them go, even though the team is better.

    Javier isn't going to do well in New York. In Joe's book he said he never thought Javier could handle a big market. But seriously guys.. this isn't about the Yankees getting worse. This is about some of Yankee player's best friend being dealt away. Robinson Cano practically lives with Cabrera. I see his performance being effected by this trade.

    Face it.. Melky gets NY.. NY gets Melky.

    It just fit well
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    Forgive me for thinking professional baseball players aren't suddenly going to wet the bed because their friend is no longer on the same team.

    And I hope it's not about the Yankees getting worse...because there's no universe in which trading a fourth outfielder for a strong pitcher makes a team worse. Even if Vazquez is league average for 200 innings (which is what he was last time he was in New York...totally can't handle New York..), that's still more valuable than a fourth outfielder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Forgive me for thinking professional baseball players aren't suddenly going to wet the bed because their friend is no longer on the same team.
    You're saying Baseball Mogul isn't real?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989 View Post
    You're saying Baseball Mogul isn't real?????
    what;s next santa isn't real

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Forgive me for thinking professional baseball players aren't suddenly going to wet the bed because their friend is no longer on the same team.

    And I hope it's not about the Yankees getting worse...because there's no universe in which trading a fourth outfielder for a strong pitcher makes a team worse. Even if Vazquez is league average for 200 innings (which is what he was last time he was in New York...totally can't handle New York..), that's still more valuable than a fourth outfielder.
    how was he a 4th outfielder? our 2nd best outfielder

    and Viz was a stud to get rid of
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    2nd best? You're delusional. I'd take Damon over Cabrera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpz17 View Post
    how was he a 4th outfielder? our 2nd best outfielder
    Swisher and Granderson are both better.

    His glove isn't good enough to be an everyday center fielder and his bat isn't close to being good enough to be an everyday corner outfielder. That's a fourth outfielder.

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