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    Yeah, it's so much fun rooting for the schoolyard bully as opposed to the underdog, isn't it? OTOH they do put their money back into their team, which is all a fan can ask for. What I'm asking for is the abolition of divisions so that other teams would have to face the Beasts of the East as much as we do, but I am not deluded enough to believe that I'll get anywhere with that one. Money alone does not guarantee championships. Money + Brains in the Front Office = F**king Juggernaut. I think unfortunately for the fans of the other 29 teams in MLB, we better get used to seeing more of this ghastly image:
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet View Post
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    That's why I would never make a trade with the Yankees. You will never get the player value back because they can afford to hoover up the contract regardless of how large it may be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragecage View Post
    Or the dealer at the casino.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
    What I'm asking for is the abolition of divisions so that other teams would have to face the Beasts of the East as much as we do, but I am not deluded enough to believe that I'll get anywhere with that one. Money alone does not guarantee championships.
    I would like four divisions in each league, with 4 teams in each league.....

    32 teams all together, winner from each division plays in the playoffs....no more wild card.

    Then in the East you wouldn't have to deal with Tampa Bay at least any more. Just New York, Boston, and Baltimore.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    I would like four divisions in each league, with 4 teams in each league.....

    32 teams all together, winner from each division plays in the playoffs....no more wild card.

    Then in the East you wouldn't have to deal with Tampa Bay at least any more. Just New York, Boston, and Baltimore.




    i prefer how it used to be, with a playoff twist. one AL division, and one NL division. No interleague...each team plays each other the same amount of times. Seed the top four teams in each of the two division, have your playoffs (all 7 game series) and may the best team win.

    oh...and back on track...superb deal for the yuckees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    I would like four divisions in each league, with 4 teams in each league.....

    32 teams all together, winner from each division plays in the playoffs....no more wild card.

    Then in the East you wouldn't have to deal with Tampa Bay at least any more. Just New York, Boston, and Baltimore.








    Ah, OK there's the big grin...Um no. That would really suck. It would guarantee a high draft position, from which we could allow the high upside prospects with huge bonus demands to slide on by to...the Yankees and Sawx. Oh, what fun! This above all else has to be dealt with in the 2011 CBA. Otherwise, why bother with the draft? We're right back to where things were in 1964, when the owners decided the draft might just be a good idea in order to create, you know, some semblance of balance. Hey, it took 46 years to totally unravel and for teams to find loopholes large enough to drive ragecage's truck through, but now something's got to be done. I am dead set against a salary cap, but a cap on players who haven't thrown a pitch or swung a bat in pro ball? Yeah, I'm down with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    i prefer how it used to be, with a playoff twist. one AL division, and one NL division. No interleague...each team plays each other the same amount of times. Seed the top four teams in each of the two division, have your playoffs (all 7 game series) and may the best team win.

    oh...and back on track...superb deal for the yuckees.
    Ah, still my beating heart oh voice of sanity. Is this the first time you and I have agreed on something? Whether it is or not, Merry Christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
    but a cap on players who haven't thrown a pitch or swung a bat in pro ball? Yeah, I'm down with that.
    Does this apply to international & domestic prospects? Either way, I'm against a cap on amateurs. They deserve market value regardless of experience, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
    Ah, OK there's the big grin...Um no. That would really suck. It would guarantee a high draft position, from which we could allow the high upside prospects with huge bonus demands to slide on by to...the Yankees and Sawx. Oh, what fun! This above all else has to be dealt with in the 2011 CBA. Otherwise, why bother with the draft? We're right back to where things were in 1964, when the owners decided the draft might just be a good idea in order to create, you know, some semblance of balance. Hey, it took 46 years to totally unravel and for teams to find loopholes large enough to drive ragecage's truck through, but now something's got to be done. I am dead set against a salary cap, but a cap on players who haven't thrown a pitch or swung a bat in pro ball? Yeah, I'm down with that.
    agreed..


    and nice joke on the rage front there

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200tang View Post
    Does this apply to international & domestic prospects? Either way, I'm against a cap on amateurs. They deserve market value regardless of experience, in my opinion.
    If they've played professional baseball wherever they're coming from I would say they deserve market value because they've obviously proven themselves to be capable of playing professionally, but I'd put a cap on the 16 year old foreign signings, as well as high schoolers and college kids. It'd still be a s**t-tonne of money for a kid that age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
    If they've played professional baseball wherever they're coming from I would say they deserve market value because they've obviously proven themselves to be capable of playing professionally, but I'd put a cap on the 16 year old foreign signings, as well as high schoolers and college kids. It'd still be a s**t-tonne of money for a kid that age.
    I think caps on draft kids. The draft has been harmed more than improved by giving bonus' to these kids. Just like how players earn league min salaries until arbitration, the bonus's should be the same based on draft position, to allow these smaller market teams a chance to build up and not worrying about over paying for a top pick who may or may not ever pan out.

    If the kids work hard, and eventually make it to the show, than they will make some good money. No need for an overall salary cap if you do something like this.

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    Go Darth Vader

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    Echo everyone else. Big win for the Yankees

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    I have a hard time believing the Braves couldn't get more than this for Vazquez.......did they really need a CF that bad?? The SP prospect is nice, but he's also pretty far away....
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