Zomg!!! Halladay is gone and so is cliff lee

[actionjackson]

You probably posted at the exact time the Lee deal became official.

If Drabek fails that could mean a number of things though. It could mean the doctors just think he'll have problems in the future in which case Toronto could still take him but want one more piece in return or keep the money or something. Amaro said the deal would get done though. My guess is either the rumored deal goes through or PHI adds another prospect.

The money stays in Philly as far as I'm concerned. $6 mil is far more valuable to them in their position than it is to us in ours. Another prospect would be sweet though. I mean, it's not like Amaro has any leverage to deny another prospect. Does he?

[actionjackson]

What an insane deal if you're a Philly fan. The euphoria of the possibility of a Halladay/Lee/Hamels front three, quickly to anger at Lee being sent to Seattle, followed by downright terror that the Halladay deal might not go through. What an off-season so far, and it's not even Christmas yet.

[200tang]

Hopefully some crazy Adrian Gonzalez deal happens.

[200tang]

Churchill: Hearing there could be some additional details to the trade involving the Mariners that we haven't heard up to this point.

We'll find out, presumably today. If I get it before it gets out, I'll post it immediately.

When is this speculation gonna end? :|

[actionjackson]

When is this speculation gonna end? :|

This is MADNESS. Madness, I say. Maybe Mariners sending a prospect to Jays to make up for Phillies blunder? I would think the Philbos are on their own on that one though. Thank God Gord "Give us your walking wounded" Ash isn't in charge here anymore. Ugh.

[reflections]

Hopefully some crazy Adrian Gonzalez deal happens.

If they trade Adrian, the MLB should just combine the Padres and Pirates and have them barnstorm through the Majors.

[Alloutwar]

Adrain Gonzales to the Dodgers for McCourt's engagement ring

which Kevin Kouzmanoff then uses to propose to Lady Gaga

But shot down, he is then traded to the Cubs for Milton Bradley and $60mil

[actionjackson]

Sounds like the report of a failed physical among one of the three prospects coming to the Jays was BS. Another piece of "journalism" trash from one of the worst writers in this market Bob Elliott. Source: Jeff Blair - Very credible and reliable. Hope to God Elliott gets a severance package. The sooner the better, gotta flush out the goddamn dinosaurs dammit.

Link

It is over. Well, except for Bud the Slug signing off on the $6-million.

[HoustonGM]

What an insane deal if you're a Philly fan. The euphoria of the possibility of a Halladay/Lee/Hamels front three, quickly to anger at Lee being sent to Seattle, followed by downright terror that the Halladay deal might not go through. What an off-season so far, and it's not even Christmas yet.

At least both the Lee and Halladay trades happened at once. What would've really sucked for Phillies fans is if they had traded for Halladay, then later in the offseason, sent Lee to Seattle.

Sounds like the report of a failed physical among one of the three prospects coming to the Jays was BS. Another piece of "journalism" trash from one of the worst writers in this market Bob Elliott. Source: Jeff Blair - Very credible and reliable. Hope to God Elliott gets a severance package. The sooner the better, gotta flush out the goddamn dinosaurs dammit.

Link

It is over. Well, except for Bud the Slug signing off on the $6-million.

Well....from Rotoworld:

Blue Jays acquired 1B-3B Brett Wallace from the Athletics for OF Michael Taylor.
It turns out that an MRI on Wallace's shoulder was the hold-up on the deal, but everything eventually checked out. It's curious that the Athletics would give up on him, but it's probably an acknowledgment that he's bound to play first base or be a designated hitter in the long-term. Wallace, 23, was actually originally drafted by Toronto in 2005, but went to college and signed with the Cardinals after being drafted in the first-round in 2008. Wallace has a .305/.384/.475 line over his first two professional seasons, reaching as high as Triple-A last season. Using Wallace at first base could be one possibility should the Jays trade Lyle Overbay this winter.

[actionjackson]

At least both the Lee and Halladay trades happened at once. What would've really sucked for Phillies fans is if they had traded for Halladay, then later in the offseason, sent Lee to Seattle.


Well....from Rotoworld:

I'll believe it when I see it from someone other than Elliott, who's the one who released the news that Wallace's shoulder had been a hold-up to the deal. In my opinion that's straight up spin to cover his ass. I'll take Blair's word over Elliott's any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

[Jeffy25]

haven't been reading this thread, but why did the Phillies trade Lee? It doesn't seem like they needed to in order to get this done.

Why not keep Lee for the year and then get the picks for him?

[gosensgo101]

haven't been reading this thread, but why did the Phillies trade Lee? It doesn't seem like they needed to in order to get this done.

Why not keep Lee for the year and then get the picks for him?

They don't seem to be able to afford both his and Roy's salary.

[Jeffy25]

They don't seem to be able to afford both his and Roy's salary.

for this year alone, couldn't they? They will be giving Roy a large enough raise in 2011 that would cover Lee's contract this year.

I imagine they can cover both contracts for 2010. Maybe not.

[200tang]

The real question is why didn't they trade Blanton? I find it hard to believe that NO team out there wouldn't spend one C prospect for him or just take him..basically for free..

[acetoolguy]

What do you think it cost Toronto by not doing the deal last year? It seems they got less if any of last years rumors were true.