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    Arbitration Roundup

    Here's a list of players who were Type A or B and who have or have not been offered arbitration (from MLBTR, I just omitted those who weren't A or B):

    Catchers:

    Rod Barajas (34) - Type B, offered arb
    Jason Kendall (36) - Type B not offered arb
    Bengie Molina (35) - Type A not offered arb
    Miguel Olivo (31) - Type B, not offered arb
    Ivan Rodriguez (38) - Type B offered arb
    Yorvit Torrealba (31) - Type B, not offered arb
    Gregg Zaun (39) - Type B offered arb

    First basemen:

    Carlos Delgado (38) - Type B not offered arb
    Nick Johnson (31) - Type B, not offered arb
    Adam LaRoche (30) - Type B, not offered arb
    Fernando Tatis (35) - Type B not offered arb

    Second basemen:

    Ronnie Belliard (35) - Type B, not offered arb
    Mark DeRosa (35) - Type B offered arb
    Orlando Hudson (32) - Type A, not offered arb
    Felipe Lopez (30) - Type B not offered arb
    Placido Polanco (34) - Type A, not offered arb

    Shortstops:

    Orlando Cabrera (35) - Type A, can't be offered arbitration
    Marco Scutaro (34) - Type A, offered arb
    Miguel Tejada (36) - Type A, not offered arb

    Third basemen:

    Adrian Beltre (31) - Type B offered arb
    Chone Figgins (32) - Type A offered arb
    Troy Glaus (33) - Type B not offered arb
    Melvin Mora (38) - Type B not offered arb

    Left fielders:

    Garret Anderson (38) - Type B not offered arb
    Marlon Byrd (32) - Type B offered arb
    Johnny Damon (36) - Type A, not offered arb
    Jason Bay (31) - Type A offered arb
    Matt Holliday (30) - Type A offered arb
    Randy Winn (36) - Type B not offered arb

    Center fielder:

    Mike Cameron (37) - Type B not offered arb

    Right fielders:

    Jermaine Dye (36) - Type A, not offered arb
    Brian Giles (39) - Type B, not offered arb
    Xavier Nady (31) - Type B, not offered arb
    Vladimir Guerrero (35) - Type B not offered arb

    Starting pitchers:

    Erik Bedard (31) - Type B not offered arb
    Doug Davis (34) - Type B not offered arb
    Justin Duchscherer (32) Type B offered arb
    Jon Garland (30) - Type B, not offered arb
    Rich Harden (28) - Type B, not offered arb
    Randy Johnson (46) - Type B not offered arb
    John Lackey (31) - Type A offered arb
    Braden Looper (35) - Type B not offered arb
    Jason Marquis (31) - Type B, offered arb
    Vicente Padilla (32) - Type B, not offered arb
    Carl Pavano (34) - Type B, offered arb
    Andy Pettitte (38) - Type B, not offered arb
    Joel Pineiro (31) - Type B offered arb
    Randy Wolf (33) - Type A, not offered arb

    Closers:

    Mike Gonzalez (32) - Type A, offered arb
    Kevin Gregg (32) - Type A, not offered arb
    Fernando Rodney (33) - Type B, offered arb
    Rafael Soriano (30) - Type A, offered arb
    Jose Valverde (32) - Type A, offered arb
    Billy Wagner (38) - Type A offered arb

    RHP:

    Rafael Betancourt (35) - Type A, offered arb
    Doug Brocail (43) - Type B, not offered arb
    Kiko Calero (35) - Type B, not offered arb
    Octavio Dotel (36) - Type A, not offered arb
    LaTroy Hawkins (37) - Type A, not offered arb
    Bob Howry (36) - Type B not offered arb
    Brandon Lyon (30) - Type B, offered arb
    Guillermo Mota (36) - Type B, not offered arb
    Chan Ho Park (37) - Type B not offered arb
    Russ Springer (41) - Type B not offered arb
    David Weathers (40) - Type B not offered arb

    LHP:

    Joe Beimel (32) - Type B, not offered arb
    Scott Eyre (38) - Type B not offered arb
    Will Ohman (31) - Type B, not offered arb
    Darren Oliver (39) - Type A not offered arb
    Brian Shouse (41) - Type B offered arb
    Last edited by free2131; 12-02-2009 at 12:04 AM. Reason: Final Update

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    Re: Arbitration Roundup

    I'll try and update through the night. Also, for those not sure about the arbitration process, Tim Dierkes from MLBTR does a nice job in explaining it:

    What does it mean when we say a free agent was offered arbitration? When a team offers arbitration to one of its own free agents, it is offering the player a 2010 contract at a to-be-determined salary. Last year, out of 24 such offers, only two players (Darren Oliver and David Weathers) accepted.

    One reason "offering arbitration" to free agents is confusing is that the actual process of arbitration rarely comes into play. Even with Oliver and Weathers last year, the sides agreed on 2010 salaries without arbitration hearings. In an arbitration hearing, a third-party panel must choose between one salary figure submitted by the team and another submitted by the player. These hearings only take place if the sides cannot agree on a salary. Clearing up a common error: if a free agent accepts arbitration, the team and the player can submit any salary figure they want.

    If most free agents turn down arbitration offers, why do we care? Turning down an arbitration offer makes draft pick compensation possible for the team losing the free agent. Free agents can be classified as Type A, B, or nothing. Check our list to see the current designations, and click here to see the stats the Elias Sports Bureau uses to assign them.

    Shortstop Marco Scutaro will be our example of a Type A free agent. Say the Blue Jays offer him arbitration, and he turns it down because he feels he can do better than a one-year contract if he hits the open market. Say also that the Red Sox sign Scutaro, and do not sign any other Type A free agents. In this case, the Blue Jays are given Boston's #29 pick in the June 2010 draft as well as a pick in a supplemental round that takes place after the first round. It's important to note that the supplemental pick is squeezed into the draft but it does not come from the Red Sox. Therefore, the Sox only surrendered one pick to sign Scutaro, even though the Blue Jays received two.

    In the Scutaro example, the Blue Jays were given Boston's first-round draft pick. With Type A free agent draft pick compensation, only first-round picks outside of the top 15 are eligible to be taken by another team. The first 15 picks are protected. In those cases, the team gives up its second-round pick. For example, if the Astros sign Scutaro, the Blue Jays get their second-round (#41) pick rather than their protected first-round (#8) pick. Here's the 2010 draft order; note that the first 16 picks are protected next year because the Rangers will receive a compensatory pick for failing to sign Matt Purke.

    Now, if one team signs multiple Type As from other teams, as the Yankees did last year, draft pick compensation gets muddier. Click here to read up on that.

    We'll use outfielder Marlon Byrd as our Type B example. Say the Rangers offer him arbitration and he turns it down in search of a better contract. Say also that the Cubs sign Byrd. The Cubs do not give a draft pick to the Rangers. The Rangers do gain a draft pick - it is squeezed into the supplemental round. Therefore, signing a Type A free agent who was offered and turned down arbitration costs one draft pick, but signing such a Type B does not. Players who were not offered arbitration do not have draft pick compensation. Same goes for players who were designated neither A nor B.

    Another cause for confusion: we have a different concept that also uses the word "arbitration." When we say Felix Hernandez is arbitration-eligible, we mean that he has between two-plus and five-plus years of service time, and therefore has some say in his salary. Hernandez is under the Mariners' control. The only question is what they will pay him next year, and that's the one similarity with free agent compensation. Felix and the Mariners each submit salary figures, and if they can't agree an arbitration panel must choose one.

    Upcoming deadlines: on December 1st (by 11pm CST), we'll learn whether teams offer arbitration to their free agents. Expect 20-25 offers. By December 7th, those 20-25 players must choose whether to accept. Expect only a handful to accept. Those who accept are no longer free agents.

    The unrelated non-tender deadline is December 12th. That is when teams decide whether to tender a contract to arbitration-eligible players. These players have fewer than six years of service time, and are under team control for 2010 if the team wants them. If not, the players are non-tendered and become free agents. We'll be adding many names to the free agent list on December 12th.

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    we offered Glaus arbitration?!

    Really?

    I am surprised, and i would be even more surprised if he doesn't accept then.

    But if he, and Matt, DeRosa and Pinero go else where....we got some picks coming next year.

    of course, i would rather have Holliday than his picks...but anyway.

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    Why the hell did the Dodgers decline to offer Wolf arbitration? How would that go badly for them?

    Colletti is such a joke.
    Illini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    we offered Glaus arbitration?!

    Really?

    I am surprised, and i would be even more surprised if he doesn't accept then.

    But if he, and Matt, DeRosa and Pinero go else where....we got some picks coming next year.

    of course, i would rather have Holliday than his picks...but anyway.
    No, he is listed just because of his Type B status. It will say beside it whether they offered arb or not. They aren't expected to, BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haveacigar View Post
    Why the hell did the Dodgers decline to offer Wolf arbitration? How would that go badly for them?

    Colletti is such a joke.
    It probably had more to do with the divorce than Colletti's stupidity (as much in abundance as that is ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by free2131 View Post
    It probably had more to do with the divorce than Colletti's stupidity (as much in abundance as that is ).
    I still don't see the point though. I understand that the divorce has an impact on their finances, but I don't see how it would have so much the impact that they couldn't afford a 1 year deal for Wolf.

    But more relevantly, there's no way in hell Wolf would accept, so, why not just take the free draft picks?
    Illini.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haveacigar View Post
    I still don't see the point though. I understand that the divorce has an impact on their finances, but I don't see how it would have so much the impact that they couldn't afford a 1 year deal for Wolf.

    But more relevantly, there's no way in hell Wolf would accept, so, why not just take the free draft picks?
    This may be a sign that whoever wins in their divorce battle that they Dodgers may be cutting mucho payroll, because like you said, there should be no way he accepts.

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    I was really surprised the Braves didn't offer arbitration to LaRoche. He has stated that he wants a multi-year deal, and even if he accepts and get somewhere around $8 or $9 MM, its only for a year, and Freeman should be ready for 2011.

    Maybe this mean they have a deal in the talks to bring a first basemen in and they don't want to risk LaRoche accepting.

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    Adrian?

    i have no idea.

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    Big surprise, but Sox offered Bay and Wagner arbitration.

    Damn. I was hoping they wouldn't offer it to Wagner so the Braves might get him without giving up a pick. Oh well, at least we will get some for Soriano and Gonzalez.

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    Re: Arbitration Roundup

    Rockies offered Marquis and Betancourt arb


    Interesting Marquis...

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    Diamondback don't offer Davis arbitration. Mariners offer Beltre arbitration, but do not offer Bedard arbitration.

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    Cardinals offer arbitration to Holliday, Pineiro, and DeRosa, but decline on Glaus.

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    Rays make offer to Zaun and Shouse, but not sure about Springer.

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