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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    Zduriencik helped a team improve from 61-101 to 85-77 in one season. A 24-win swing. He also netted the best defensive player in baseball, and prospects, for practically nothing. Not to mention sign a guy who hit 30+ homers to a contract worth $1.4M. Mozeliak improved a team that already has a few stars, including the best player in baseball, by five wins.
    Be honest, if you weren't a Mariner fan, would you be taking issue with his pick?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Be honest, if you weren't a Mariner fan, would you be taking issue with his pick?
    I would put Huntington over Mozeliak...so yes, I would.

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    Dan O' Dowd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach Owens View Post
    I would put Huntington over Mozeliak...so yes, I would.
    What does Huntington have to do with it? I'd assume that if you weren't a Mariners fan, your pick would still be Zduriencik.... I just don't think you'd be calling him out like you are. Either way, it's really not a big deal. It's not like he picked Ed Wade, and it's not like his vote is going to decide the thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    What does Huntington have to do with it? I'd assume that if you weren't a Mariners fan, your pick would still be Zduriencik.... I just don't think you'd be calling him out like you are. Either way, it's really not a big deal. It's not like he picked Ed Wade, and it's not like his vote is going to decide the thing.
    Yeah, just sayin' though... And when I mentioned Huntington, I meant that Mozeliak is third or fourth on my list. Yes, part of the reason I really like Z is because I'm a Mariners fan, but I would also pick Huntington over Mozeliak anyways.

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    Did the Mariners make the postseason? No. And 94% of the people who are going to vote are going to have homerism.
    Zack and Miri made a Morneau and now it Byrnes when he Peavy's.

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    I voted Brian Cashman 88 times because he kept Derek Jeter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skudplayr View Post
    Did the Mariners make the postseason? No. And 94% of the people who are going to vote are going to have homerism.
    I'd bet money GMZ wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skudplayr View Post
    Did the Mariners make the postseason? No.
    Not sure this should have to do much with a serious GM evaluation. A first year GM taking over a roster that has been ran by the likes of Bill Bavasi would need to be a miracle-worker to get the team into the playoffs. I think postseason or not should be a secondary concern to the individual moves the GM made and whether or not he has a coherent plan and is working towards that plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by skudplayr
    And 94% of the people who are going to vote are going to have homerism.
    Very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skudplayr View Post
    And 94% of the people who are going to vote are going to have homerism.
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    Very true.
    Except for Royals fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Not sure this should have to do much with a serious GM evaluation. A first year GM taking over a roster that has been ran by the likes of Bill Bavasi would need to be a miracle-worker to get the team into the playoffs. I think postseason or not should be a secondary concern to the individual moves the GM made and whether or not he has a coherent plan and is working towards that plan.
    He's saying that the guy was wrong to choose Mozeliak over Z. I'm saying you're never wrong by picking a GM who's team made the playoffs.
    Zack and Miri made a Morneau and now it Byrnes when he Peavy's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skudplayr View Post
    He's saying that the guy was wrong to choose Mozeliak over Z. I'm saying you're never wrong by picking a GM who's team made the playoffs.
    depends on the circumstances. Like, say, if that GM just took over a really good team but didn't do anything.

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    Re: This Year in Baseball Awards

    Hitter: Joe Mauer
    Starter: Zack Greinke
    Rookie: Chris Coghlan
    Manager: Mike Scioscia
    Closer: Mariano Rivera
    Setup: NL MVP Candidate Jeremy Affeldt
    Defense: Yadier Molina (where the hell is Frank Guttierez?)
    Performance: Mark Buehrle
    Play: Eric Bruntlett
    Moment: Los Angeles Angels
    Oddity: Luis Castillo
    Exec: John Mozeliak (my apologies for killing him off in Clone Pujols)
    Unsung Star: Mark Reynolds!!!!!
    Postseason Moment: Mark Loretta
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    Quote Originally Posted by skudplayr View Post
    He's saying that the guy was wrong to choose Mozeliak over Z. I'm saying you're never wrong by picking a GM who's team made the playoffs.
    You definitely can be. Take the 2002/2003 Giants. Brian Sabean isn't a good GM. Those teams were good largely because of Barry Bonds, a player Sabean inherited. I don't feel like looking into the state of GM's in that time period, but I'd wager a guess that if you chose Brian Sabean as GM of the year in either of those seasons, you very well could be very wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Hitter: Joe Mauer
    Over Pujols?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Over Pujols?
    I adjusted for position.
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