low blow !Originally Posted by OldYankFan
lol- it was actually my first thought too...
low blow !
lol
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Cy Young I don't believe has much of a winning team factor incorporated into the decision. If the guy produces, he deserves it, maybe even more since he is on a bad team. How about Pedro Martinez when he was on a very unimpressive Expos team.
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Hail to the king, baby.
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Pedro is awesome.Since 2000 - covering the last ten years - there have been 428 American League starter seasons with at least 150 innings pitched. Here's how Felix's 2009 ranks among them:
ERA: #5
FIP: #17
Combined*: #8
* (2*ERA + 6*FIP)/8. A quick and dirty way of still giving starters some credit for their context pitching. This stat sucks and please never use it.
Of course, neither ERA nor FIP are adjusted for park, so Felix gets a boost, but he was still excellent, and the unfortunate coincidence that Zack Greinke was better doesn't take away from the fact that Felix still had a Cy Young-caliber season. No reason to be disappointed.
The top three AL starter seasons since 2000: Pedro Martinez 2000, Pedro Martinez 2002, and Pedro Martinez 2003. Pedro Martinez 2001 would have qualified had he thrown another 33.1 innings. Between 1999-2003 - covering five years, 135 starts, and 933 innings - Pedro ran a 2.10 ERA and 1.94 FIP. He allowed 133 runs between 1999-2001. Jose Contreras and Scott Olsen allowed 134 runs in 2007. This really happened.
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damnit mg
Hail to the king, baby.
I just said he's awesome, not awesome AT pitching
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he is being interviewed on the mlb network right now, god he is a timid guy....talks soooo slowly and so quietly.
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Dang this guy was good. What I found funny was on ESPN. How he won on a last place horrid team, lol.
Dreamweaver
Yeah when it's local media he can be lively and joke around and all that..but when it's national media and stuff...he just wants to get through it and talk as little as possible lol
My runs created per 27 posts (RC/27p) was 12.4 last year. I should've been MVP.
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It's not the MVP vote. There's no sort of vague term like "valuable." It's simply the award for the best pitcher in the league. I'm surprised it was such a landslide...not because he was on a last place team but because he had just 16 wins (which is a by-product of being on a last place team). If somebody had won 20, I think it would've been a lot closer....and of course, if that was the case, that would just go to show the utter ridiculousness of pitcher evaluation in the mainstream media.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/sp...18pitcher.html
Brian Bannister introduced Greinke to the concept of FIP. I like the quote from Greinke:
“That’s pretty much how I pitch, to try to keep my FIP as low as possible,” Greinke said.
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the end of the article says a lot about his personality....wonder if that could have any effect on his career and ability to repeat this year.
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I don't see any reason it would.
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well there were two schools of thought to my comment.
1. he could be immune to the normal slump a.l. pitchers have gotten in from the last five years due to his lack of accepting the popularity or any differences. Which could possibly have effected some of those winners (not Santana).
2. He could potentially always have these issues and desire for seclusion and subconsciously not want any attention and possibly limit himself from the spot light.
of course, it's more likely it won't change anything from any other pitchers, and it would be impossible to really ever know
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