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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by haveacigar View Post
    Adam Jones started off really well and made a bunch of plays. First impressions can be very strong.
    Yeah I am sure that could be the reason. So basically when the Orioles were ignored after the All Star break, so was Adam Jones' play? That would make sense if so.
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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by rschusta24 View Post
    I didn't understand Adam Jones either. That one really bothered me. Knowing me, I have never taken a look at these UZR stats of yours Houston and instead I have just looked at him basic fielding stats and it really doesn't look that impressive. The only thing that some what stands out is his assists in centerfield. Other than that, he is not really that impressive to me.
    Now, that Mark Teixeira ranking really surprised me but of course I didn't really think he was very worthy either. Who was ranked first at 1st base?
    Kendry Morales led the AL in UZR this year. UZR needs more than one season to be a really accurate barometer of a fielder's ability, though.

    Adam Jones had a very good UZR last year. Lacked the offense, though. Good first impression + offensive improvement + All Star Game = Gold Glove - even if your fielding regresses!

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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    I think the bigger question to be asked is why Mauer won the GG when he only caught 109 games.
    because only 5 other players caught more than that Pierzynski(131), Laird(135), Suzuki(135), Barajas(125), Navarro(113)..

    So 109 isn't that low of an amount.

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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009...-glove-ripoff/

    Warning: Long, like everything from Joe Posnanski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Kendry Morales led the AL in UZR this year. UZR needs more than one season to be a really accurate barometer of a fielder's ability, though.

    Adam Jones had a very good UZR last year. Lacked the offense, though. Good first impression + offensive improvement + All Star Game = Gold Glove - even if your fielding regresses!
    Hmmm interesting. I wonder sometimes with Kevin Youkilis bouncing around a lot between 3rd and 1st this year, if he would have any better effect of winning a gold glove over Texiera or not. Of course I am saying this without knowing his UZR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rschusta24 View Post
    Hmmm interesting. I wonder sometimes with Kevin Youkilis bouncing around a lot between 3rd and 1st this year, if he would have any better effect of winning a gold glove over Texiera or not. Of course I am saying this without knowing his UZR.
    Over the 2007-2009 period, Youkilis is first in the AL in UZR at 16.8. Here are the top 5 in the AL for that period:

    Kevin Youkilis 16.8
    Casey Kotchman 14
    Daric Barton 7.9
    Lyle Overbay 6.2
    Ross Gload 5.5

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    Wow. Pretty impressive. It always seems too that the main stream media and even fans view Texiera's worth as a fielder higher than Youkilis. Very interesting.
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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009...-glove-ripoff/

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    But the Royals had such a bad year and they were so bad defensively at every other position that DeJesus’ defensive consistency — and he IS a good left fielder, he really is — grew into something larger than life. It became this weird point of contention. Who the heck brags about how good a defender their left fielder is anyway? If he covers so much ground, why isn’t he playing center field? If he has that great an arm, why isn’t he playing right field? There are a million different ways to explain how bad the Royals are, but one of the simplest would be to say: Their best defensive player was their left fielder. And they proudly trumpeted this
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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Can anyone find that stat to see how much Derek Jeter was worth over the last couple years?

    A chart of most overpaid/underpaid would be great, too.

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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by NYDodgers View Post
    Can anyone find that stat to see how much Derek Jeter was worth over the last couple years?

    A chart of most overpaid/underpaid would be great, too.
    Help Yourself

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx...26&position=SS

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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Jeter is one of the best D ss's in the mlb
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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by jpz17 View Post
    Jeter is one of the best D ss's in the mlb
    hmmmm
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    Re: Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

    Quote Originally Posted by jpz17 View Post
    Jeter is one of the best D ss's in the mlb
    He really isn't. He was solid this year, much improved than he's been in the past, but for a large part of his career, he has been among the WORST defensive shortstops in the majors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    He really isn't. He was solid this year, much improved than he's been in the past, but for a large part of his career, he has been among the WORST defensive shortstops in the majors.
    Agreed. He has just been overhyped with him jumping and throwing off his back foot and his tornado throws near second.
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