Oh boy......Derek Jeter and another GG

[Jeffy25]

This just means Jeter's fielding skills are on par with Rafael Palmeiro's

hahaha score!

[200tang]

yes, both are worthless, but the problem is that not everyone knows this....intelligent fans know this, the general public does not, and the average fan likely does not.

True, but I personally don't really care about what the general public thinks. I know that Jeter isn't a gold glove SS and the people I talk to know this, so it's w/e for me.

[Jeffy25]

True, but I personally don't really care about what the general public thinks. I know that Jeter isn't a gold glove SS and the people I talk to know this, so it's w/e for me.

ya, my friends don't know this, the people that i talk to on an everyday basis about the cardinals don't know this...only the one friend that worked for the cardinals this past year.


he is working for me now, it's kind of cool, he foudn in his laptop bag the phone directory for everyone, this included mozliak, larussa, and dewitt's home phone numbers, cell phone numbers, email and office numbers.



tempted, tempted, tempted, tempted

[metsguy234]

Wait why did Guttierez not win a gold glove?

[200tang]

Wait why did Guttierez not win a gold glove?

Because the GG's are worthless and he told them he doesn't want to win an award based on defense if Rafael Palmeiro can win one.

[haveacigar]

Did someone say it's his fault? o.O Everyone knows it's not his fault, obviously. It's the writers

Just expanding on the OP

[HoustonGM]

Wait why did Guttierez not win a gold glove?

Because the Gold Gloves aren't an actual measure of defensive prowess. [/what everyone else said]

Gold Gloves are a combination of like three things - defensive reputation, offense, and having won in the past. Torii Hunter and Ichiro Suzuki have won umpteen years in a row, so, they will continue to win every year until they stop playing most likely. That means there's effectively one GG spot for outfielders that aren't named Hunter or Ichiro. For some reason, the coaches picked the young guy with the tools that played in just 119 games over the ridiculously good Franklin Gutierrez.

[Jeffy25]

I am the biggest Ozzie Smith fan ever, but he won a few, that he could have easily lost to other players possibly more deserving, but no one was going to win over him as long as he was playing a good solid shortstop each year.

I love him, and not to take anything away from him, but building on what HGM said, i am not so sure he really deserved some of the final one's he won.

[HoustonGM]

Ranking of each winner by UZR:

1B - Mark Teixeira (7th of 9)
2B - Placido Polanco (1st of 9)
3B - Evan Longoria (1st of 8)
SS - Derek Jeter (5th of 10)
OF - Adam Jones (17th of 34)
OF - Torii Hunter (13th of 34)
OF - Ichiro Suzuki (12th of 34)

[Jeffy25]

so, you're saying it's a popularity contest?! no way!



haha, sarcasm

[guidi2009]

I think Obama should have won it.

[Jeffy25]

oh snap!

two most overated people of 2009? Obama and Jeter....fantastic

[BINGLEBOP]

Wait why did Guttierez not win a gold glove?

Because the voters misspelled his name like you did, so it was declared invalid.

[rschusta24]

Ranking of each winner by UZR:

1B - Mark Teixeira (7th of 9)
2B - Placido Polanco (1st of 9)
3B - Evan Longoria (1st of 8)
SS - Derek Jeter (5th of 10)
OF - Adam Jones (17th of 34)
OF - Torii Hunter (13th of 34)
OF - Ichiro Suzuki (12th of 34)

I didn't understand Adam Jones either. That one really bothered me. Knowing me, I have never taken a look at these UZR stats of yours Houston and instead I have just looked at him basic fielding stats and it really doesn't look that impressive. The only thing that some what stands out is his assists in centerfield. Other than that, he is not really that impressive to me.
Now, that Mark Teixeira ranking really surprised me but of course I didn't really think he was very worthy either. Who was ranked first at 1st base?

[haveacigar]

Adam Jones started off really well and made a bunch of plays. First impressions can be very strong.