MLB Talk III

[BINGLEBOP]

The third generation thread.

[Jeffy25]

sean casey just complemented Vernon Wells's hard work

[metsguy234]

sean casey just complemented Vernon Wells's hard work

Because he robbed a HR.

[Jeffy25]

it wasn't a robbed home run....and casey said that you gotta love all the hard work that Wells puts in....it could be true, I don't follow the blue jays on a nightly basis....but does he really put in all the effort that awards him his 100 plus million dollar deal?

[metsguy234]

"It shouldn't be an error, because he gave lots of effort"

-Nationals broadcaster just now

[gosensgo101]

it wasn't a robbed home run....and casey said that you gotta love all the hard work that Wells puts in....it could be true, I don't follow the blue jays on a nightly basis....but does he really put in all the effort that awards him his 100 plus million dollar deal?

Wells is a good fielder, and does put effort into his glovework, but he pops up nearly every goddamn at bat. And if he doesn't pop up, he hits into a double play. He also has the wheels to steal more than he does, but he doesn't put effort into stealing. His one downfall (physically) is that he doesn't get good contact. He almost never gets good contact on the ball, every pitch he either pops up foul, pops up or swings and misses. A fly ball to the outfield is a blessing from him.

[gosensgo101]

"It shouldn't be an error, because he gave lots of effort"

-Nationals broadcaster just now

That can be true. If you're attempting a diving catch and you just miss (ie you trap it or it hits off the heal of your glove) you shouldn't be punished with an error because you actually gave the effort instead of mailing it in.

[Jeffy25]

could it be mental?

[gosensgo101]

could it be mental?

He's hitting .290 on the road and under .200 at home. There's no way playing at Rogers Centre lowers your batting average by 100 points, no question its mental.

[metsguy234]

That can be true. If you're attempting a diving catch and you just miss (ie you trap it or it hits off the heal of your glove) you shouldn't be punished with an error because you actually gave the effort instead of mailing it in.

Here was the situation:

Pop up, in foul ground, 1B/2B/RF all go in for it, RF somehow makes it over there, but it bounces out of his glove.

[metsguy234]

http://www.brooklynmetfan.com/mexisms.php

lmao:

265. Watching monitor in the booth:
Gary: “All I know is the feed from the Florida game has a Just For Men commercial on it right now”
Mex: “There’s Emmit! He looks much better doesn’t he?”

[gosensgo101]

Here was the situation:

Pop up, in foul ground, 1B/2B/RF all go in for it, RF somehow makes it over there, but it bounces out of his glove.

If he somehow made it over there, then its a play that did require lots of effort, and I don't think it should be an error.

[Coach Owens]

Wells is a good fielder, and does put effort into his glovework, but he pops up nearly every goddamn at bat. And if he doesn't pop up, he hits into a double play. He also has the wheels to steal more than he does, but he doesn't put effort into stealing. His one downfall (physically) is that he doesn't get good contact. He almost never gets good contact on the ball, every pitch he either pops up foul, pops up or swings and misses. A fly ball to the outfield is a blessing from him.

Ummmm...what? Surely you mean that he's good at not dropping the ball, right? Because a -20.1 UZR is 101 games is absolutely horrible. In fact, he's the worst fielding center fielder in baseball.

[200tang]

Wells is a good fielder

not to nitpick, but Wells has been horrendously bad both this year and last year.

UZR puts him at -14.3 last year and -20.2 this year.

The fielding bible put him at -7 runs last year and had this to say

Wells is a former Gold Glove center fielder coming off a down year for him. He gets good jumps and has speed, as well as experience. His throwing arm is better than the typical center fielder's. He makes quite a few plays diving or sliding on balls in front of him, but he can also get back to the wall for deep drives. Wells will occasionally slide for a ball when he doesn't need to.

If I could see his +/- this year, I'm guessing it would agree with UZR that he is absolutely terrible in the OF. I think we're seeing another Andruw Jones.

[metsguy234]

Wells is a former gold glove winner. He's a good fielder.