Trade Rumors

[bucher34]

I'm pretty sure Beane realizes he needs to trade Holliday.

[OregonDuck1989]

I'm going to say Holliday is around 60%. His trade value has declined this season as have his numbers and Beane is going to want the world for him. Seeing as how he traded the world for him.

[asianinvasion]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/0...-hannahan.html
Hopefully, this is just for AAA depth and he won't be our solution at third.

[Coach Owens]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/0...-hannahan.html
Hopefully, this is just for AAA depth and he won't be our solution at third.

Jeff Sullivan at Lookout Landing says it well; Hannahan is a solid, solid defender (6.3 UZR at third base this season) and is much better at defense than Woodward. It's not the greatest trade ever, but it improves our team. He also says that it's most likely not the last move Z'll make either. Don't worry about it.

[200tang]

I'm pretty sure he's our stop-gap at third. There's no other reason for making the trade. The thing to remember is that Beltre isn't officially out for the year. He won't be 100% if he comes back, but even an 80% Beltre is better than most 3B in the league, as sad as that is. Like Owens said, he has solid defense, he's left handed & he's not an easy out (4.1 pitches per AB).

The Mariners are likely going to trade for Sanchez or Wilson, I'm just not sure who. My guess is that the Mariners trade for Sanchez/Wilson & Ian Snell for Greg Halman/Wladimir Balentien & Clement & ???.

[asianinvasion]

Would the Jays consider Halladay to the Yankees if they include Vernon Wells? It is the Yankees so they could if they wanted to is just cut Wells after the trade ala Andruw Jones in L.A. Wells has about 92 mil left in his contract but it is the Yankees and if they really want Halladay, I guess they could do it. Or they could renegotiate his contract and give him the extra money under the table.

[HoustonGM]

Would the Jays consider Halladay to the Yankees if they include Vernon Wells? It is the Yankees so they could if they wanted to is just cut Wells after the trade ala Andruw Jones in L.A. Wells has about 92 mil left in his contract but it is the Yankees and if they really want Halladay, I guess they could do it. Or they could renegotiate his contract and give him the extra money under the table.

The Jays have said that they won't give a team a window to negotiate a contract with Halladay, and doing so without their permission isn't allowed.

[asianinvasion]

The Jays have said that they won't give a team a window to negotiate a contract with Halladay, and doing so without their permission isn't allowed.

Was talking about Wells. After they trade him, try to renegotiate his contract or just cut him.

[HoustonGM]

Well, they'd need a baseball reason as to why they're cutting him. They can't cut him because of a financial reason, and he's not performing bad enough to do that.

[dickay]

Well, they'd need a baseball reason as to why they're cutting him. They can't cut him because of a financial reason, and he's not performing bad enough to do that.

do you really think Wells would object a contract buy out of full value? i think the whole conversation is pointless as imo there's no way in haites that NYY will pay him that much to walk....but he'd take it with a smile if offered.

and they could cut him for financial reasons. the only reason the "can't cut him for financial reasons" item is being throw around nowadays is the Glavine situation, and that was different as it included a BONUS that he would have been getting which he was no longer eligible for when being cut. You can't cut a guy, or bench him, or send him to the minors, whatever...solely to avoid a contractual bonus. Unions would fight that to the hill and win if they could prove it. But theres nothing saying a team can't buy out an entire contract with or without the players permission.

the whole idea of releasing wells is so rediculous its not funny. so the Yanks will trade for Halladay without knowing if he'll resign in 1.5 years, and also give Wells 92 million to go elsewhere???????? Now i could see the yanks dealing for both and trying to play Wellls and get some of that value for their money, but i highly doubt it unless the Blue Jays were taking some of the contract and/or contracts back in return. We're talkin too much money, even for the Yuckees.

[dickay]

The Jays have said that they won't give a team a window to negotiate a contract with Halladay, and doing so without their permission isn't allowed.

this is kind of dumb if factual. wouldn't the Jays be in a better position to recieve MORE VALUE if the recieiving team knew they would have a long term deal in place before acquiring him? why WOULDN'T you want to allow a team to have talks with him? it only increases what you could get in return.

i highly highly doubt this is some conspiracy where halladay goes somewhere adn has already agreed to resign with the jays in 1.5 years.

[haveacigar]

Well, they'd need a baseball reason as to why they're cutting him. They can't cut him because of a financial reason, and he's not performing bad enough to do that.

Well, they wouldn't be cutting him for a financial reason if he were still owed all the money. Wells doesn't have a team vesting option like Magglio, so cutting him would have no impact on his finances. I don't even know what the PA could even say in a grievance.

[haveacigar]

this is kind of dumb if factual. wouldn't the Jays be in a better position to recieve MORE VALUE if the recieiving team knew they would have a long term deal in place before acquiring him? why WOULDN'T you want to allow a team to have talks with him? it only increases what you could get in return.

i highly highly doubt this is some conspiracy where halladay goes somewhere adn has already agreed to resign with the jays in 1.5 years.

They don't want a potential trade to break down because a team fails to come to terms with Halladay on an extension. They basically just want that ground rule in place to simplify the negotiations on their end.

[dickay]

Well, they wouldn't be cutting him for a financial reason if he were still owed all the money. Wells doesn't have a team vesting option like Magglio, so cutting him would have no impact on his finances. I don't even know what the PA could even say in a grievance.

forgot about the mags issue. yeah, he and Glavine both have very different situations than the Wells buyout issue which isn't an issue because it willl never happen with the amount remaining on his deal.

[dickay]

They don't want a potential trade to break down because a team fails to come to terms with Halladay on an extension. They basically just want that ground rule in place to simplify the negotiations on their end.

thats a good point. they are taking less though by doing this. if the team thats receiving him is serious in resigning him and acquiring him i think TOR could be in a better position to receive more talent.