Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Statiscal Accuracy

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    11

    Statiscal Accuracy

    I am very new to the game and still play it in demo version ,but I am about to purchase it .I understand that a lot of the fun is the flexibility to trade ,create universes etc.
    I have several questions : Can i turn off the injury portion of the game assuming I want to just do a replay of a season ?
    Can I also turn off the trades to keep a historical season intact?
    Als can I watch every game of a season in play by play without interacting if I desire
    The final question : do you find the classic seasons statistical accurate
    Sorry for all the stupid questions .I appreciate any and all responses from the group

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    71

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    1. Yes, by turning injuries to -100%
    2. Yes, by turning trades to -100%
    3. Yes, the play by play allows you to play as the players, the manager, or the GM. From more involvement into the game to less.
    4. It depends by what you mean by accurate. You can reduce the level of randomness and such things but Babe Ruth will not always hit 714 HR every sim.

    Hope this help

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    11

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    Thanks ,Goldberg .How do you reduce the level of randomness to get it as close as possible .I know you can never come in exact on stats but I am seeking to come in as close as possible .In other words in a sim where Gil hodges hits 47 and 36 hrs ,his actual was 21 .That is way of from a randomness standpoint .I just want to keep it in line
    Anyone,please chime in

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    1,091

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    The game is not a historical replay, so Hodges could hit 47 homers or 12 homers, if you play it often enough his average output will be near the actual (in theory). Just like in the real world homerun derby where the same batting practice pitcher throws the same pitch over and over to the same hitter, the result isn't always the same.

    Besides, what fun would that be, if Hodges always did exactly what he did in real life, and so did everyone else. Why bother playing?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    44,491

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    Yeah, forgive me, but what's the point of replaying a season basically exactly?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Reno, NV
    Posts
    754

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Yeah, forgive me, but what's the point of replaying a season basically exactly?
    Although I've never played it personally, isn't that the point of a game like DMB? I could see some value in a strict replay...could I manage the 1969 Cubs better than Durocher did, and keep them from collapsing down the stretch?
    I saw Andre Dawson. And let me tell you something. There were only two players in my lifetime whose teammates held them in awe. One was Mickey Mantle. The other was Andre Dawson. If you were around, if you saw them play, you know that. But the numbers don't tell you that.
    - Jerome Holtzman


  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Edison, NJ
    Posts
    15,636

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    Yea, and that's exactly the "appeal".
    I don't really get it, either. There's nothing really wrong with it, but I just don't see the fun in doing replays myself (which, incidentally, is probably part of the point).
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    11

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    I can see all of your points .I do like the game the way it is ,however when doing historical replays I would like to be able to "manage" the players that perform close to their statistics. That being said in games like DMB and ACTION PC, there is an elemement of randomness .Your historical pennant winners do not always win ,your hr ,rbi etc leaders are not always there either ,in fact in most cases are not. However, the play close to their numbers for the most part.In SM I see wide variations and I would like to know if the full version has the capability to temper that
    I really like the idea of being able to use any team in any year . The game is vey flexible in that regard.I am a replay freak I guess

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Edison, NJ
    Posts
    15,636

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    No, it doesn't.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Northern Virginia, USA
    Posts
    3,683

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    One edition of Total Baseball has a great article on why computer baseball simulations cannot remove the element of randomness unless specifically programmed to do so. It mentions one game that was programmed to remove randomness, the title of which was mercifully left out.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Cape Girardeau, MO (SEMO)
    Posts
    16,719

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    What? look at Albert
    Attached Images Attached Images  

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Uptown Minneapolis
    Posts
    11,433

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    Wow, he sucks. Couldn't even make the top 10 in home runs!

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Olympia, Washington
    Posts
    1,676

    Re: Statiscal Accuracy

    Quote Originally Posted by giants1288 View Post
    I can see all of your points .I do like the game the way it is ,however when doing historical replays I would like to be able to "manage" the players that perform close to their statistics. That being said in games like DMB and ACTION PC, there is an elemement of randomness .Your historical pennant winners do not always win ,your hr ,rbi etc leaders are not always there either ,in fact in most cases are not. However, the play close to their numbers for the most part.In SM I see wide variations and I would like to know if the full version has the capability to temper that
    I really like the idea of being able to use any team in any year . The game is vey flexible in that regard.I am a replay freak I guess
    Ummm. One thing.
    You wouldn't be managing them. If you know what everyone is going to do or at least close to what they are going to do. That's not managing.
    I'm uncertain how you think you'll ever be able to get seasons to perfectly match up. Baseball itself is a lot of randoms and what if and never happened.
    It's been said time and time again that this game isn't a historical replay, that not every Hall of Famer is going to get there. One thing this game has really made me do, is appreciate the elite of the game. Players that even when playing with other Hall Of Famers...were light years above them.
    As far as seeing what you can do with a certain team in a certain year, and trying to keep everything somewhat accurate.
    Try this. Turn down the trades to -100 (as said before). And pull up Baseball reference. Look up the year you are simulating. And just follow the transactions page, making every transaction that comes up.
    I tried this with a 1901 Superba dynasty. It's time consuming, but kinda fun. Injuries suck though. lol

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •