I would like to see somebody dispute that.
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I would like to see somebody dispute that.
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I am replying to fili's quote that was in absurdly large font:
fili and OFG.
no one even argued about other countries media. OFG got pissy when I said that the media glorifies Obama...or did so pre-election...and then I responded with quite a bit of evidence that this is so....no one said our media wasn't more or less liberal then other countries....so what the hell is the point of your statement? no one challenged, so your statement is quite moot to make.
It's amazing how far off topic you guys can take this....this was about Obama and gunatanmo...then it was about campaign promises, then it was about liberals vs conservatives...and now it's about how liberal the media is.....it's amazing how people will pick out parts of a statement they don't agree with and find it necessary to argue it until they are hoarse or can't type anymore....it's errnoeoius (god i wish I could spell).
Media is liberal...not just because us conservatives say so...it is...majority of those that write for the media ARE liberal...and their views tend to become reflected in their writings.
Obama backed out on a campagin promise after he found out more information...good for him. maybe he will learn the lesson to not preach before he knows information.
conservatives were raised with different view points then liberals...big ****ing whoppedie doo.
any points i am missing? any other reason to continue a senseless debate where ofg and fili feel like beaten animals backed into a corner where they need to lash out and yell that they are right? no one is attacking you guys....so let it go
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The point is, as ohms pointed out, is that it is relative. The U.S. media is "liberal" according to what? According to the world as a whole, it's not.
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Yes. Major points. What does liberal and conservative mean? It has to be in relation to something.Originally Posted by Jeffy25
If you brand something 'liberal', liberal according to what? To you?
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WTF???
Seriously, WTF are you talking about?
Evidence??? Because your Dad says it so, that makes it so??
And I feel like a beaten animal backed into a corner??? How the hell are you garnering that from me pointing out the ******** of the claims of a liberal media??? Because it is ******** you know.
Hmmm, maybe it's questioning your undying right wing beliefs that's got you feeling backed into a corner??? I dunno, but then again, I have no fricken clue where this post came from either.
EDIT: Here is an explanation from Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) that explains it pretty well. While I'm sure you'll scream FAIR is left oriented, I honestly haven't heard that one before.
If you were so inclined, I'd recommend reading more of their website as it pertains to WHY the media has gotten the way it's gotten (too much power in too few hands, to break it down, and I agree), and it also explains away the "myth" of CNN being liberal, which is, considering the original founder, so laughable it can make me choke. I still remember CNN calling those protesting the war "anti-war protestors" while those protesting on the other side were gathering together "in support of the troops". If that's not a right wing slant on the news, then obviously reality must have liberal bias. But you won't like it's take on Faux News. Because it calls it what it is, pretty much a right-wing, Republican propaganda machine. So, I'm sure that "conclusion" will make some feel FAIR is obviously left wing.
That sums up the media in this country. Completely right of center.Given that most media outlets are owned by for-profit corporations and are funded by corporate advertising, it is not surprising that they seldom provide a full range of debate. The right edge of discussion is usually represented by a committed supporter of right-wing causes, someone who calls for significantly changing the status quo in a conservative direction. The left edge, by contrast, is often represented by an establishment-oriented centrist who supports maintaining the status quo;
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I had the same initial thought.
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who knows? he may have been refering to the numerous studies I cited in the wikipedia link?
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Huh? I don't see in what way you can get that jeffy was referring to anything you said.
The point remains, the U.S. media is liberal according to what?
Furthermore, as I said, like it or not, most Americans are "liberal" (20% currently identify themselves as Republicans, according to a study I heard referred to multiple times in the last few days), so one would expect the media, ran by Americans, to therefore be mostly "liberal."
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dickay is referring to his post with links/quotes: http://forum.sportsmogul.com/showpos...4&postcount=38
to be fair, OFG was asking what evidence Jeffy had provided. I think?
either way - everyone, lets hold hands and breathe, no reason to get hot and upset at this point. We were doing so good!
Results:
1) we have explored why right-wingers thing the media is biased, and why left-wingers don't see this. We're getting good on that.
2) we have provided examples why individual media people - reporters, etc - might be liberal minded. This doesn't seem to be unacceptable.
3) we have said that the right wing may feel that it should be fairly represented, but 50/50 might not be accurate when the country is more like 60/40, or even 70/30. Hence the negative feelnigs about media bias, and need to overcompensate with ridiculous wingnuts.
4) we have questioned that our media, overall, is right of center when in the world view (read: other democracies). This appears to gel with what the forum members know of the rest of the world.
Food for thought! Lots of it! eat up!
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lol, nice
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I don't get it...
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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I don't get it...
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Right, but... what's with the four dots in the circle (?) thing?
You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann
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That's how you play it on the recorder. I think.
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