stadium decay and stadium loans

[Goldberg]

Two Minor features which I see could being implemented for human GMs.

(Might have been mentionned before)

First, picture this:

You spend your cash for a new stadium. The new stadium is 'excellent' in all three categories.

And slowly the stadium decays for a series of reasons (like real life).

Currently, after I build my new stadium, I manually reduce everything every five years so that after 20 years, my stadium is at poor in everything. This reduces my earning power, my ability to save cash, and my ability to build the new stadium. This forces me to reduce my payroll (making the game more challenging) so that I can save money for it. With inflation, this becomes even harder to do.

Comes idea #2: stadium loan.

When building a new stadium, with stadium decay and inflation, the ability to build the new stadium using a loan. The loan and the interest would be for a period of say, 10 years, and added to your payroll. The repayment could be a yearly or monthly payment, or work just like a player salary.

Before, I used excel to manage my stadium loan and deleted from the team's cash the equivalent to the lump sum payment after each WS.

But now I simply create a player with around 55 overall rating, age 20, no-trade clause, and give him a salary equal to my stadium loan yearly payment. Easier to manage.

Two simple (and somewhat novelty) ideas for BM11.

[BINGLEBOP]

And slowly the stadium decays for a series of reasons (like real life).

Currently, after I build my new stadium, I manually reduce everything every five years so that after 20 years, my stadium is at poor in everything.

The things in the game though under the Stadium Editor wouldn't change in real life over 20 years. If there was something for "Infrastructure", then maybe, but Convenience, Comfort, Visibility, and especially Sight Lines aren't going to go from "Excellent" to "Poor" in 20 years. It's not like those things ever change.

[gosensgo101]

The things in the game though under the Stadium Editor wouldn't change in real life over 20 years. If there was something for "Infrastructure", then maybe, but Convenience, Comfort, Visibility, and especially Sight Lines aren't going to go from "Excellent" to "Poor" in 20 years. It's not like those things ever change.

Well, in comparison to other, newer ballparks, they do somewhat, however it'd be more noticeable over a longer period of time.

[Jeff Olsen]

I manually reduce everything every five years so that after 20 years, my stadium is at poor in everything.

The game already keeps track of how old each stadium is, which negatively affects the number of fans at each game, so I don't think this is really necessary.

[cfeedback]

You spend your cash for a new stadium. The new stadium is 'excellent' in all three categories.

And slowly the stadium decays for a series of reasons (like real life).

Umm...this already happens, at least in 2009? Not sure exactly how long it takes but sim ahead 50 years and you'll see every stadium is ranked Poor in Convenience and Comfort. Sight Lines don't decay.

[OldYankFan]

Umm...this already happens, at least in 2009? Not sure exactly how long it takes but sim ahead 50 years and you'll see every stadium is ranked Poor in Convenience and Comfort. Sight Lines don't decay.

I don't know about that. If you start a game in 1970, older stadiums like Fenway, Wrigley, or Yankee Stadium are not rated poor. Even though they are 50 years old or older. By the way by 1970 Yankee Stadium at least was as inconveniant a place to go as anywhere could be.

[dps]

The things in the game though under the Stadium Editor wouldn't change in real life over 20 years. If there was something for "Infrastructure", then maybe, but Convenience, Comfort, Visibility, and especially Sight Lines aren't going to go from "Excellent" to "Poor" in 20 years. It's not like those things ever change.

Convenience has more to do with the surrounding community than the stadium itself--it's about location, and while the stadium isn't going to move, the desirability of the location certainly can change.

Comfort can also change. Seats and such can deteriorate, plus even if they stay the same expectations that fans have for accomodations can go up.

Visibility and sight lines, though, aren't going to change unless there are structural changes.

Incidentally, I don't think it's realistic that every new stadium necessarily start out as "excellent" in everything.

[cfeedback]

I don't know about that. If you start a game in 1970, older stadiums like Fenway, Wrigley, or Yankee Stadium are not rated poor. Even though they are 50 years old or older. By the way by 1970 Yankee Stadium at least was as inconveniant a place to go as anywhere could be.

Has nothing to do with actual age, just deteriorates as time goes on from whenever you start. All I know is in our online league if you sim out to 2050 (probably happens long before that) all our stadiums (which started as real life 2007 ones) will be ranked poor/poor/whatever they were before.

Could be different with historical sims, I don't really know as I never play solo.