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good hitter, but struckout a ton....but still a .400 hitter who stole basesOriginally Posted by BINGLEBOP
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There will never be a .400 hitter who strikes out a ton. It just doesn't work that way.
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He would?
So you'd be a weak hitting, caught stealing maniac, non walking, singles hitter in your number 2 slot?
I'd definitely put up any of my teams that I build with the strategies I use against a team that would do that.
That is fascinating.
I guess even Rob Deer had a job for a long time.
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If he's hitting .376, I'd put him #2 too.
I'd just keep him station-to-station and not let him steal unless the situation was favorable.
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I'm actually curious to see what his final year end stats were.
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Escobar would be a #2, #8, or #9 hitter for me told not to steal unless in absolute favorable situations. Granted, he doesn't walk, but when he hits a single 37% of the time and gets on base 40% of the time, walks don't matter as much.
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An outstanding contact hitter like that? Absolutely I'd bat him second. It's a .402 OBP no matter how you slice it, and given his lack of power, I'd want my #3 and #4 hitting behind him. If I had no one else who could steal bases, I'd bat him leadoff.
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I think I'd also be slightly more conservative with Escobar on the basepaths. He definitely has speed, but maybe the AI is running him in the wrong situations.
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It still sucks to see he only racked up 30+ BB's.
I'd put him at #8 or #9 simply because he can hit singles. I'd prefer a guy who can take BB's and steal bases at my #2.
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Escobar: 104 runs, 251 hits, 25 doubles, 56 RBIs, 32 walks, 34 stolen bases, 29 caught stealing, .374, .405, .443, .848
Player B: 100 runs, 221 hits, 22 doubles, 49 RBIs, 45 walks, 45 stolen bases, 25 caught stealing, .326, .374, .407, .781.
Where would you bat Player B? Well IRL he hit leadoff. He was Juan Pierre, 2004. Very similar seasons. Another comparable player to Escobar is
Escobar: 104 runs, 251 hits, 25 doubles, 56 RBIs, 32 walks, 34 stolen bases, 29 caught stealing, .374, .405, .443, .848
Player C: 111 runs, 238 hits, 22 doubles, 68 RBIs, 49 walks, 47 stolen bases, 8 caught stealing, .351, .396, .431, .827
Player C is also a player who hit leadoff all year, his entire career in fact, and aside from the SB/CS ratio is effectively the same hitter as Escobar. He is 2007 Ichiro Suzuki.
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If your "guy" who can take BB's only has a .360 OBP because his batting average is only .275 how is that better? I'll take a guy batting 2nd who never walks if he can bat .350+
Hail to the king, baby.
What's the difference between a BB and a single?A single is technically better because it can move runners on 2nd/3rd base.
And yeah I don't know how a guy with an .848 OPS is a weak hitter to you guys. I would absolutely bat him second to move the lead off guy over or bring him in from 2nd if he steals. If you have a 400+ OBP lead off hitter with considerable speed and this guy who can knock a single in roughly 4 out of 10 times you're going to score a lot of runs with the first 2 hits of the game.
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