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    Dallas Police Delayed NFL Player as Relative Died

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

    This is one of the sadder stories I have read in a while. This is one of the reasons I hate the police. He should get fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragecage View Post
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

    This is one of the sadder stories I have read in a while. This is one of the reasons I hate the police. He should get fired.
    Ok, YOU are a cop. This happens.

    Ryan Moats, 26, explained that he waited until there was no traffic before proceeding through the red light. When Powell asked for proof of insurance, Moats grew more agitated and told the officer to go find it.
    You let him carry on his way?

    Guess it's a good thing you're not a cop

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    I don't hate the police, I've found the ones I've associated with to be very kind and helpful. I could tell you of one night that is pretty unbelievable, but beside the point.

    I do hate the bad ones, though. And I really, really, really, hate the "Blue Wall of Silence" where they defend each other over what is right.

    The cop that shot the guy in the back in the Oakland (???) subway, this example, there was an example in my neck of the woods where a guy got shot 8 times in the back in his car, and it wasn't even in the cops jurisdiction.

    And what I hate the most is when these bad ones do something like this, they never get treated like the rest of us. Get fired??? Do you think that's what would happen to you if you delayed another person from receiving emergency medical help??

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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Ok, YOU are a cop. This happens.



    You let him carry on his way?

    Guess it's a good thing you're not a cop
    Are you suggesting he NEVER told the cop there was a medical emergency?

    OK you are NOT the cop.

    You are stopped for running a red light.

    You explain to the cop your mother in law is dying and you're on your way to the hospital.

    The cop doesn't believe you (most likely because you're black, although I'm sure everyone will cry foul for me bringing that up. But I've seen racist cops in action in Texas with my own four eyes) and instead insists on you showing proof of insurance.

    What do you do?

    I'd likely not tell him to find it himself. I'd likely tell him to go **** himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Ok, YOU are a cop. This happens.



    You let him carry on his way?

    Guess it's a good thing you're not a cop
    I think you would be one of those upset, beings you dont believe in god. If there was someone you cared about and knew they were dying wouldnt you not give a damn about a stupid light to try to be there for their last moments on earth?

    And yeah, if I was told, the reason I ran that light is that my mother in law was dying If i was the cop i would let him go. Unless you have an issue with his color and thats why you choose the cops side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    I don't hate the police, I've found the ones I've associated with to be very kind and helpful. I could tell you of one night that is pretty unbelievable, but beside the point.

    I do hate the bad ones, though. And I really, really, really, hate the "Blue Wall of Silence" where they defend each other over what is right.
    I guess, hate is a strong word for police, I dont necessarily hate all of them, but living in a small town like I do, you know the good ones and the bad ones by name. In this cops case it reminds me of the bad ones that take the power of their job to their head which annoys me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Are you suggesting he NEVER told the cop there was a medical emergency?

    OK you are NOT the cop.

    You are stopped for running a red light.

    You explain to the cop your mother in law is dying and you're on your way to the hospital.

    The cop doesn't believe you (most likely because you're black, although I'm sure everyone will cry foul for me bringing that up. But I've seen racist cops in action in Texas with my own four eyes) and instead insists on you showing proof of insurance.

    What do you do?

    I'd likely not tell him to find it himself. I'd likely tell him to go **** himself.
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    Of course I would be upset. But what do you think happens every time he pulls someone over. How many ******** stories do you think he hears?

    Should that be a 'get out of jail free card'. You get pulled over and say 'my mom's dying' and the cop steps aside?

    No doubt there are some shitty cops. Though, all my incidents with them have been very positive. I've avoided some life altering trouble because some police didn't press an issue with me when they could have. It doesn't hurt to cooperate. And this guy was just doing his job.

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    He was in the hospital parking lot for gosh sakes man! You can put 1 and 1 together I would think, even another officer came to that guy writing a ticket to confirm what Moats was saying.
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    What a douche.
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    The thing I hate is when he stopped arguing and said "Hurry Up, write the ticket" the cop wouldn't do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Ok, YOU are a cop. This happens.



    You let him carry on his way?

    Guess it's a good thing you're not a cop
    Wow, you ignored a lot of that story to write a post this moronic. The whole exchange should've ended right....here:

    “My mother-in-law is dying! Right now! You’re wasting my time!” Moats yelled. “I don’t understand why you can’t understand that.”

    As soon as that happens, the cop can either let him go, or be the biggest douchebag in the universe. And, judging by the police chief's comments about the situation, I'm thinking he agrees with my assessment.

    Tell you what: read this version of the story, and then try to defend that embarrassment to law enforcement.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...html?nTar=OPUR
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    What we don't know is where was the traffic light the guy ran compared to the hospital parking lot.

    Did he run the light directly into the lot? Did he run the light and drive 3 blocks into the lot? The cop was there. And Moats was there in an emotional state. You don't know what happened there other than a couple words from an article on Yahoo! sports.

    Maybe you should tone down your judgement until you know all the facts, which will likely be never

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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Of course I would be upset. But what do you think happens every time he pulls someone over. How many ******** stories do you think he hears?

    Should that be a 'get out of jail free card'. You get pulled over and say 'my mom's dying' and the cop steps aside?

    No doubt there are some shitty cops. Though, all my incidents with them have been very positive. I've avoided some life altering trouble because some police didn't press an issue with me when they could have. It doesn't hurt to cooperate. And this guy was just doing his job.
    The Dallas police chief disagrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Of course I would be upset. But what do you think happens every time he pulls someone over. How many ******** stories do you think he hears?

    Should that be a 'get out of jail free card'. You get pulled over and say 'my mom's dying' and the cop steps aside?

    No doubt there are some shitty cops. Though, all my incidents with them have been very positive. I've avoided some life altering trouble because some police didn't press an issue with me when they could have. It doesn't hurt to cooperate. And this guy was just doing his job.
    Yeah, I know. It's a damn hard job. And you bet they hear ******** stories all the time.

    But I think most reasonable folks in that same situation would've handled it differently. And I further think he handled it very poorly. And I further think it was almost entirely due to race.

    So, maybe I'm being too hard on him. Maybe you're being to easy on him. Or maybe it's somewhere in the middle.

    Either way, a woman died that perhaps wouldn't have if things had been handled differently. You seem to be eager to understand the cops view (it's probably a ******** story) while I seem to be eager to understand the man's view (I'd get more agitated too if someone was stopping me from getting help for a loved one).

    What's it all mean???

    I dunno.

    I still think he's a douche (the cop), as someone above said.

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