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[dickay]

Crawford is a MUCH more valuable fantasy player. Crawford's ADP is 28 on Mock Draft Central. Ibanez isn't in the top 75. You're greatly undervaluing stolen bases.

Proves my point that he's greatly overvalued. Statistically, Ibanez has been a better fantasy value for at least the past 3 to 4 seasons. Considering your only talking 36SB now, thats only 34 more than what you have Ibanez at, and Ibanez's HR, R, and RBI value is much more significant.

Factor in age, and he's not likely to go up. If anything, he's more likely to go down.

I think Crawford has gotten a year older too coming off an injury plagued season. I realize he's at his peak years though he's already had quite a few seasons in the pros and has shown no signs of significant improvement from year to year. Also his "plate approach" hasn't exactly been superb either.

Anyway, i said i'd take crawford over ibanez with everything else equal in a fantasy draft, and thats largely because of his "percieved" value. Most mock drafts however rank ibanez as much lower than Crawford. You're typically a more intelligent baseball analyst than your statement about Crawford easily being a better choice than Ibanez. Surely you can admit that the gap in fantasy value hasn't been anywhere near as great as those mock drafts have made it in recent years. Again, Craw has been overrated, Ibanez has been underrated.

65 was runs. 36 was SB.[/QUOTE]

[dickay]

What about Encarnacion? All this talk about Ibanez over Crawford but Encarnacion isn't anything amazing.

who said anything negative, or positive for that matter, about encarnacion?

[5dodgers5]

I like Encarnacion too. Plus he's one of the few lone sources of power on my team. Howard is the only 40+, Encarnacion, Atkins, Kemp, Wieters, Ibanez, Nady are all possibilities for 20+, but Encarnacion could easily jump to 35.

[200tang]

who said anything negative, or positive for that matter, about encarnacion?

I didn't say anyone did say something negative or positive

[HoustonGM]

Proves my point that he's greatly overvalued.

Or it proves the point that Crawford is better.

Statistically, Ibanez has been a better fantasy value for at least the past 3 to 4 seasons.

Try 1 of the last 4, 2008.

Ibanez was ranked 59th overall in 2008 to Crawford's 199 because Crawford missed a lot of time to injury. In 2007, Crawford ranked 25th, Ibanez 116. (Yahoo rankings)

I don't know how to get the rankings from before that, but in 2006 Crawford hit 7 more home runs and stole 8 more bases (compared to 2007) while holding steady elsewhere, compared to Ibanez hitting 10 more HR and 18 more RBI over his 2007 total. Crawford was likely around the 25-30 mark, and Ibanez in the 70-80 area.

2005, Ibanez basically repeated his 2007 season (which he ranked 116th) swapping some RBI for runs...Crawford repeated his 2007 season with a few more runs and HR and 4 less SB. Again, Crawford probably ranked around the 25-30 mark, and Ibanez around 115.

Considering your only talking 36SB now, thats only 34 more than what you have Ibanez at, and Ibanez's HR, R, and RBI value is much more significant.

"Only 34 SB"? Also, Crawford beats him in runs.

Surely you can admit that the gap in fantasy value hasn't been anywhere near as great as those mock drafts have made it in recent years.

Not according to how they've ranked the past few years.

[dickay]

Ibanez was ranked 59th overall in 2008 to Crawford's 199 because Crawford missed a lot of time to injury. In 2007, Crawford ranked 25th, Ibanez 116. (Yahoo rankings)

My point...the rankings overvalue crawford and undervalue ibanez. statistically, i'll take what ibanez has given over craw.

"Only 34 SB"? Also, Crawford beats him in runs.

Yes only 34...and you may want to review your own projections regarding runs.

[HoustonGM]

My point...the rankings overvalue crawford and undervalue ibanez. statistically, i'll take what ibanez has given over craw.

You're severely undervaluing stolen bases, which the statistical rankings do not. I find it hard to believe that the statistical rankings and every fantasy expert and most fantasy players all have it wrong in regards to Crawford and Ibanez, and you're the only one that's got it right.

Yes only 34...and you may want to review your own projections regarding runs.

When I said Crawford beats him I was talking about in the past few years, sorry, and I wouldn't call it in favor of either of them based on the projections considering it's a 3 run difference.