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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Blast View Post
    I sure as Hell hope not. We need MORE guys who will actually say something beyond athlete cliches, not fewer.
    I agree, but I believe his career is worth allowing in

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    As much as I disagree with his political views, Schilling was an outstanding pitcher.
    Hall of Fame? He's on the borderline...I think he'll make it.
    Gooo Angels!

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    Re: Curt Schilling announces retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    I agree, but I believe his career is worth allowing in
    I was actually commenting on the fact that I like the fact he speaks his mind.

    Anyway, I don't know if he's a HOF guy in my book.

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    HOFer by me.

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    Same here, easy HOFer. And I also agree on his mouth(With Arctic). I hate how most athlete's say the same things. However, it is not like they get asked good questions. Instead they get asked retarded "Do you think you can win?" or "Will you make the WS" questions


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    Re: Curt Schilling announces retirement

    I used to think he wasn't a HOFer, after looking back at his stats, there is no question thou, he is a HOFer, 1st ballot.

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    Re: Curt Schilling announces retirement

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4007993
    Schilling, one of the sport's hard throwers, finishes his career with 3,116 strikeouts, 14th most in baseball history, a 216-146 record and a 3.46 ERA.
    He was even better in the postseason, with an 11-2 record, the best of any pitcher with at least 10 decisions, and 2.23 ERA in 19 career starts.
    To me his numbers put him in the hall.

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    I'm looking forward to the anti-Schilling arguments beginning with "He never won a Cy Young award!" from the same people that argue for Jack Morris by saying "He placed in the top 10 in Cy Young voting 7 times!"

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    lol, that 2001-04 table seems rather silly. Wins and Win Pct. are a bit weird and CG is borderline weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    I'm looking forward to the anti-Schilling arguments beginning with "He never won a Cy Young award!" from the same people that argue for Jack Morris by saying "He placed in the top 10 in Cy Young voting 7 times!"
    He'll probably get in eventually because some voters ask themselves "Would I want pitcher/batter X pitching/hitting with the game on the line?" and Curt Schilling has the numbers to back that up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200tang View Post
    He'll probably get in eventually because some voters ask themselves "Would I want pitcher/batter X pitching/hitting with the game on the line?" and Curt Schilling has the numbers to back that up.
    The better thing to show his greatness would be...from 1996-2004, the prime of his career, he had a 141 ERA+ in 2,007 innings, 5th among pitchers with 1,500 or more innings, trailing Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown, and Greg Maddux.

    Also, among pitchers with 3,000 strikeouts, he has the least amount of walks with 711 and only Pedro Martinez with 752 is particularly close. Greg Maddux, Fergie Jenkins, and John Smoltz are the only other pitchers with more than 3,000 K's and less than 1,000 walks, and Smoltz will likely lose that this year as he's 8 walks away (and Maddux, with 999, would've if he didn't retire).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    The better thing to show his greatness would be...from 1996-2004, the prime of his career, he had a 141 ERA+ in 2,007 innings, 5th among pitchers with 1,500 or more innings, trailing Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown, and Greg Maddux.

    Also, among pitchers with 3,000 strikeouts, he has the least amount of walks with 711 and only Pedro Martinez with 752 is particularly close. Greg Maddux, Fergie Jenkins, and John Smoltz are the only other pitchers with more than 3,000 K's and less than 1,000 walks, and Smoltz will likely lose that this year as he's 8 walks away (and Maddux, with 999, would've if he didn't retire).
    Yes Houston you know he's a HOFer, I know he's a HOFer but there's one obstacle: the writers and their goofy obsession with win totals. I can see quite a few of them saying: "Well, Jack Morris has 254 wins and we're not putting him in, so why should we put in Curt Schilling with only 216 wins?"

    KOOONNNGGG! (tip of the cap to OFG)

    That's the satisfactory sound of any rational, reasonable baseball fan wailin' on the noggin of any writer idiotic enough to spout that drivel with a cast iron frying pan. (Of course I'm not sure said fan still qualifies as rational and reasonable if they're hitting an idiot over the head with a frying pan, but just go with it. ) 3116 Ks, 711 BBs, in 3261.0 IP. Let the numbers speak for themselves: Cooperstown here he comes. Hopefully the fact that he was always good for a quote will help offset the win-driven members of the flock that do the voting. Am I campaigning for him because I like him or his politics? Uh, no, but the Hall of Fame has absolutely nothing to do with that. Put him in.
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    I think he's a lock to get in. He's got the playoffs and story on his side.

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    Re: Curt Schilling announces retirement

    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Blast View Post
    I sure as Hell hope not. We need MORE guys who will actually say something beyond athlete cliches, not fewer.
    thank you for this....

    too many hypocrites that claim to want straight talk and then whine when they get it. I think its refreshing and extremely interestesting to find someone who brings you inside the game. Some of his blog pitch by pitch breakdowns were outstanding...and while at times i found myself rolling my eyes saying "here we go again, schills running his mouth", I always went back to him being real and taking the better with the worst.

    His communications with SOSH prior to joining the sawx was legendary. And there's always the bloody sock. The most gutsy performances i've ever seen on a mound.

    I can't knock the guy. Wish him nothin but the best. He helped bring the most amazing sports moment in my life...the Sawx in 04. Always a pro in my book.

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    If he does go to the Hall of Fame, which team will be donned on his cap?
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