Chipper extention

[TheNamelessPoet]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/0...-make-pro.html

According to MLB.com's Mark Bowman, the Braves are hoping to lock Jones up "until he has reached a stage in his career when he could be contemplating retirement." That could mean several years. As Chipper said Wednesday,

I want to know if that means 3-4 years or some stupid 7 year deal.

[ragecage]

I will go with a 10 year deal

[Slingshot]

I think it's a lifetime deal. He will play with Atlanta until he dies.

[TheNamelessPoet]

lol

I gotta say.. if its 4 years which it sure sounds like it will be... then he has a shot at the magic 500 5-6 yeras he could POSSIBLY pass Schmidt but he would have to put up in my opinion 203 more 35 HR seasons and I don't think thats foing to happen. Top 3 Offensive 3B all time EASILY and if he could get to 520+ HR tou may ahve to say #1. at least would be in the conversation

[TheNamelessPoet]

schmidt

18 Seasons         8352      2234     59     1595     92    1883  .267  .380  .527  147       16 108 201  79 156
               2404      1506      408    548      174   1507                            4404
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 162 Game Avg        563  101  151  27  4  37  107  12  6 102 127  .267  .380  .527  147  297   1   7  14   5  11
 Career High    162  584  114  160  34 11  48  121  29 12 128 180  .316  .435  .644  199  342   6  13  25  11  17
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP

Jones

15 Seasons         7337      2277     35     1374     43    1142  .310  .408  .548  145        3  79 137  16 204
               2023      1378      449    408      138   1242                            4020
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 162 Game Avg        588  110  182  36  3  33  110  11  3  99  91  .310  .408  .548  145  322   0   6  11   1  16
 Career High    160  601  123  189  42  5  45  111  25 10 126  99  .364  .470  .633  174  359   1  10  23   4  21
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG *OPS+  TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP

[HoustonGM]

Why is there any question about Jones being a Hall of Famer? He's without-a-doubt one of the top 5 third basemen ever, and has an argument for #3.

[Wassit3]

Why is there any question about Jones being a Hall of Famer? He's without-a-doubt one of the top 5 third basemen ever, and has an argument for #3.

name the other 4 in your opinion

Greetings! Welcome to the Second Weekly Edition of my "Greatest Players in MLB according to their respective positions." Let's dive right into this week's edition - Third Baseman.



10) Jimmy Collins. Played for: Louisville Colonels (1895), Boston Beaneaters (1895-1900), Boston Red Sox (1901-1907), Philadelphia A's (1907-1908).

Numbers: .294 Batting Average, 1998 Hits, 65 Home Runs.

Analysis: Collins was a fantastic player with his glove and he was a terror with the bat. A feared clutch hitter for the Boston ball clubs, he batted .346 in 1897 and the following season, led the National League in home runs with 15. Collins led his club to the World Championship in 1903.

His defensive abilities at the hot corner neutralized the opposition's bunting tactics.



9) Freddy Lindstorm. Played for: New York Giants (1924-1932), Pittsburgh Pirates (1933-1934), Chicago Cubs (1935), Brooklyn Dodgers (1935).

Numbers: .311 Batting Average, 1747 Hits, 103 Home Runs, 779 RBI.

Analysis: Lindstorm became the youngest player to appear in a World Series game while with the Giants. Although he had a powerful arm and good range, hitting was always his game. Lindstrom had seven .300 seasons and twice garnered 231 hits. Lindy’s lifetime batting mark was an impressive .311.



8) George Kell. Played for: Philadelphia A's (1943-1946), Detroit Tigers (1946-1952), Boston Red Sox (1952-1954), Chicago White Sox (1954-1956), Baltimore Orioles (1956-1957).

Numbers: .306 Batting Average, 2054 Hits, 78 Home Runs, 870 RBI.

Analysis: George Kell worked at all facets of the game. He relied on constant practice to become a solid hitter and a sure-handed fielder. Blessed with a strong and accurate throwing arm, Kell led the league in double plays six times, assists four times and in putouts twice.


7) Frank Baker. Played for: Philadelphia A's (1908-1914), New York Yankees (1916-1919, 1921-1922).

Numbers: .307 Batting Average, 1838 Hits, 96 Home Runs.

Analysis: Frank Baker developed a reputation as a slugger when he hit 11 home runs in 1911, plus two more during the World Series for the Philadelphia Athletics. Earning the nickname "Home Run" Baker would lead the American League in homers during four seasons, but with never more than 12 in any one year.

Baker was a .307 lifetime hitter, twice led the American League in RBI and batted .363 in six World Series.



6) Eddie Matthews. Played for: Boston Braves (1952), Milwaukee Braves (1953-1965), Atlanta Braves (1966), Houston Astros (1967), Detroit Tigers (1967-1968).

Numbers: .271 Batting Average, 2315 Hits, 512 Home Runs, 1453 RBI.

Analysis: A feared left-handed slugger, Eddie Mathews became the seventh player in major league history to hit 500 home runs, 512 to be exact. A member of two World Championship teams, Mathews was the first athlete featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated.

Ty Cobb said it best “I've known three or four perfect swings in my time. This boy's got one of them.”


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...en-part-series

[HoustonGM]

Schmidt, Mathews, Brett, Boggs

[ragecage]

Carney Lansford, Tim Wallach, Terry Pendleton, and Jay Bell

[Wassit3]

Schmidt, Mathews, Brett, Boggs

no love for Arod?

[HoustonGM]

no love for Arod?

A-Rod's still a shortstop right now.

[TheNamelessPoet]

A-Rod olays the next 10 years at 3B... I put him EASILY top 5.
Can't put Mathews ahead of Chipper if he gets to 500 HR (Big if of course)
Boggs... Boy thats a tough one... they are different types of players... But Boggs probably ahead of him... He was a DOMINANT player. Always amazed me he never won an MVP.
Schmidt Of course is way up there but I'm sorry... if Chipper has 500 HR and Schmit have 50 more... I have to go with chippers WAY higher AVG and better OBP... They would basicly be the same player but different averages.
Brett was very good but he was not quite chipper/schmidt/mathews level

Those 3 are Inner circle 3b...

Dount you think Houston... Then A-Rod if he finishes his career at 3B

[HoustonGM]

Jones has higher raw AVG/OBP/SLG numbers than Mike Schmidt, but that's because of the era in which he played. Schmidt's OPS+ is 147 to Jones's 15. Schmidt was also a fantastic defensive third basemen, while Jones wasn't bad but nothing special either. Schmidt is far and away the top third basemen and the only player currently with any significant shot of catching him is A-Rod (although it's still entirely possible that A-Rod finishes his career having amassed more value as a SS than a 3B).

[TheNamelessPoet]

Jones has higher raw AVG/OBP/SLG numbers than Mike Schmidt, but that's because of the era in which he played. Schmidt's OPS+ is 147 to Jones's 15. Schmidt was also a fantastic defensive third basemen, while Jones wasn't bad but nothing special either. Schmidt is far and away the top third basemen and the only player currently with any significant shot of catching him is A-Rod (although it's still entirely possible that A-Rod finishes his career having amassed more value as a SS than a 3B).

Hmmm... forgot to compare the era. Thats a good point...

A-Rod may amas more worth at SS but still... He would amas this monster career at 3B too. Not as highly touted as schmidt of course...


which makes schmidt better... damn... another good one

[Joe12Pack]

Schmidt's OPS+ is 147 to Jones's 15.

I always thought Jones was a fantastic hitter... I never realized he sucked so much!!