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    Quote Originally Posted by ragecage View Post
    You understand my point though, I appreciate honesty when it doesnt have to be given. But I find it really upsetting that most writers are still throwing A-Rod under the train. Its just not right to do that to him. It would make my life next time he gets a condescending question if he would tell the person to "**** off,".

    I still say A-Rod kind of is a notch over Canseco in the honesty department because Canseco was honest to try to get rich, A-Rod isnt being paid for his honesty.

    I cant fathom why the media wont forgive A-Rod when they will forgive everyone else if they are somewhat forthcoming. And another thing, **** Selig for getting onto A-Rod too.
    That's because A-Rod is MLB's biggest star. If he was Carlos Delgado or Jermaine Dye, he wouldn't create nearly as much buzz.

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    More on Reilly...his Bill Romanowski lovefest. To quote poster Tom Nawrocki of Baseball Think Factory:
    That Romanowski story is amazing. In it, Reilly describes Romanowski as ingesting CDP choline, pheryl, glutathione, shark cartilage, between 100 and 130 pills a day, and "living pancreas, brain and adrenal cells of pure-strain Scottish sheep."

    All that stuff makes you a hero, but Winstrol makes you a lowlife who should be kicked out of professional athletics.

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    I'm still trying to figure out why the NFL seem to have a few players every year busted for some kind of PED and it isn't very big news (unless they happen to all come from the same two teams.) but in the MLB it is like the second coming.

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    So, I just read the Stark article...why exactly are we vilifying him? For pointing out the FACT that ARod's 'truth' has been shifting every single time he talks to somebody? For pointing out the fact that his initial response was to vilify the reporter who 'outed' him? He HAS been inconsistent, and he DID try to obfuscate and distract...grow up and accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reflections View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out why the NFL seem to have a few players every year busted for some kind of PED and it isn't very big news (unless they happen to all come from the same two teams.) but in the MLB it is like the second coming.
    Once again, it's simply due to baseball's hallowed numbers (61 & 755). Had those not been broke, I doubt it would be nearly as big an issue in baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etothep View Post
    Once again, it's simply due to baseball's hallowed numbers (61 & 755). Had those not been broke, I doubt it would be nearly as big an issue in baseball.
    What about the walks record?

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    In baseball, you can see their face. In football, they wear helmets..most of the players aren't recognizable without their helmets and jerseys.
    My runs created per 27 posts (RC/27p) was 12.4 last year. I should've been MVP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reflections View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out why the NFL seem to have a few players every year busted for some kind of PED and it isn't very big news (unless they happen to all come from the same two teams.) but in the MLB it is like the second coming.
    From the Sheehan article:
    Whether you want to blame Selig for what players did or not—both are at fault—what is clear is that he is as responsible as anyone for keeping baseball players' use of PEDs front and center in the public eye. Where the NFL never, ever talks about this—or really, any of the other million problems that the league has, particularly when it comes to player health—Selig and his partners have done everything in their power to keep this story alive. In fact, management openly used the image of cheating players to turn public opinion to their advantage during the 2002 negotiations for a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. When the Mitchell Report was released, Selig could have used that moment to close the door on this issue, deeming it the final word on the subject. Instead, he hemmed and hawed and allowed speculation about punishments for named players to persist. When Barry Bonds was chasing the home-run record two summers ago, Selig fanned the flames by being openly disdainful of Bonds' accomplishment. Now, rather than keep the focus firmly on the testing program, the draconian punishments for getting caught, and the limited number of positives, Selig beats up on Rodriguez, saying that A-Rod shamed the game.

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    And that would be yet ANOTHER reason Bud should be punted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    From the Sheehan article:
    The problem with Selig is that it's a whole lot of talk, but not much else. If he actually took care of the problems instead of just talking about them, MLB would be much better off. Now he just looks like a ***** with no idea on what to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Blast View Post
    So, I just read the Stark article...why exactly are we vilifying him? For pointing out the FACT that ARod's 'truth' has been shifting every single time he talks to somebody? For pointing out the fact that his initial response was to vilify the reporter who 'outed' him? He HAS been inconsistent, and he DID try to obfuscate and distract...grow up and accept it.
    It has to do with more than just this one article, such as this one, where Stark claims that A-Rod and the other juicers have destroyed the game...where he makes this completely incorrect and ridiculous claim:

    What compares to it? The Black Sox? This is worse. Game-fixing in college basketball? This is worse. Nominate any scandal in the history of sports. My vote is that this is worse.
    That claim right there is what just made me completely shut out anything Stark has to say about this issue. It shows how incredibly biased and stupid his stance is.

    Then there's stupid statements like:
    It's not worse because it will cause massive numbers of people to stop watching or caring about baseball. Check the attendance. Check the revenue charts. People will come back. They've already come back. The sport, as a business, is doing great.

    But the sport, as a unique paragon of American culture, is devastated. And that's forever.
    Oh, please, shove it. Baseball was never this pure, shining beacon of everything right in America and the writers that still hold on to that utopian notion and act as though steroid users have taken that "idea" and torn it apart are being intellectually dishonest.

    Reading through that mess of a piece where he continually points out reasons why he's wrong (such as he did with the attendance and popularity of baseball) just to say "but that doesn't matter, I'm still right" makes my head hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    It has to do with more than just this one article, such as this one, where Stark claims that A-Rod and the other juicers have destroyed the game...where he makes this completely incorrect and ridiculous claim:


    That claim right there is what just made me completely shut out anything Stark has to say about this issue. It shows how incredibly biased and stupid his stance is.

    Then there's stupid statements like:

    Oh, please, shove it. Baseball was never this pure, shining beacon of everything right in America and the writers that still hold on to that utopian notion and act as though steroid users have taken that "idea" and torn it apart are being intellectually dishonest.

    Reading through that mess of a piece where he continually points out reasons why he's wrong (such as he did with the attendance and popularity of baseball) just to say "but that doesn't matter, I'm still right" makes my head hurt.
    metsguy exposed??

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    Quote Originally Posted by etothep View Post
    metsguy exposed??
    Is Metsguy really Jayson Stark?

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    I wouldnt call it stupid, more extreme than anything though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ragecage View Post
    I wouldnt call it stupid, more extreme than anything though.
    Claiming that this is the worst scandal in the history of sports is stupid. It's not only stupid. It's monumentally stupid. Hell, simply claiming that players taking steroids is worse than players taking money to lose on purpose is monumentally stupid all by itself.

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