Sorry OFG

[etothep]

Nats prospect's name isn't actually Esmailyn Gonzalez, it's Carlos Alvarez Daniel Lugo...and he's 23 years old, not 19

[200tang]

That really sucks, I REAAAAALLLY hope the same thing doesn't appear to be true about Carlos Truinfel although I keep suspecting it is

[OldFatGuy]

Haha

Gonzalez's signing, however, immediately drew suspicion from baseball insiders. There was considerable skepticism about the team's description of him as a five-tool player. "He doesn't run all that well, and has an average arm," an executive with another team said this summer.

"Baseball Insiders" were skeptical of something the Washington Nationals said?? The Nationals operated by GM Jim Bowden? (Who apparently isn't considered a "baseball insider"??)

Shocked. I'm shocked. I can barely breathe. I, I, I, don't know what to say. You mean baseball insiders knew more than Jim Bowden???? NO WAY ! ! Can't be ! !

*pulls out remaining few hairs*
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH ! ! !

[Would now be a bad time to ask that question I've asked so many times before: How the hell does Jim Bowden still have a job???]

[boomboom]

That really sucks, I REAAAAALLLY hope the same thing doesn't appear to be true about Carlos Truinfel although I keep suspecting it is

I think it might, if you remember a few years back how some players like Miguel Tejata and a few others b-days were wrong, Freddy Garcia's was wrong too, they messed up the b-day and b-month and got it backwards so he I believe became 6 months older or younger.

[etothep]

I think it might, if you remember a few years back how some players like Miguel Tejata and a few others b-days were wrong, Freddy Garcia's was wrong too, they messed up the b-day and b-month and got it backwards so he I believe became 6 months older or younger.

6 months older is nothing, at least compared to 4 years

[200tang]

Yeah, if I found Truinfel was 6 months older I wouldn't be too worried, if it were 2 years then the Mariner's farm system just took a pretty big hit in prospects that are close to MLB ready.

[OldFatGuy]

How does something like this happen after what MLB went through just a few years ago with folks faking their ages?? I mean baseball's response to that led to a guy getting away with faking his age AND name?? What is going on? Ripping Jim Bowden another new one aside (although I still marvel at the Nats describing someone who "doesn't run all that well and has an average arm" as a "5 tool player), I don't understand how any team could let this happen after the recent history.

Wasn't just a few years ago the whole faking ages thing happened?? I really don't understand this, at all.

EDIT And BTW, does this bring up any very real Homeland Security issues??? It seems to want to send off alarm bells in my head.

[ragecage]

Haha



"Baseball Insiders" were skeptical of something the Washington Nationals said?? The Nationals operated by GM Jim Bowden? (Who apparently isn't considered a "baseball insider"??)

Shocked. I'm shocked. I can barely breathe. I, I, I, don't know what to say. You mean baseball insiders knew more than Jim Bowden???? NO WAY ! ! Can't be ! !

*pulls out remaining few hairs*
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH ! ! !

[Would now be a bad time to ask that question I've asked so many times before: How the hell does Jim Bowden still have a job???]

lol you remind me of a friend that when I say 'Trent Dilfer' he goes off.

[filihok]

EDIT And BTW, does this bring up any very real Homeland Security issues??? It seems to want to send off alarm bells in my head.

That is a good point, he is-quite obviously-not who he said he was.

I'm not sure if he could have gotten into the country as Esmailyn Gonzalez and just reported to the Nationals as Carlos Lugo. I don't know how Visas work for major league baseball. I'd think he would have to fake his entire identity to receive the working Visa.

[filihok]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nat...tionalsjournal

I need to quit reading about baseball and just watch games, because it just keeps getting slimier and slimier.

Maybe there's a little league around here somewhere.

[Porklet]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nat...tionalsjournal

I need to quit reading about baseball and just watch games, because it just keeps getting slimier and slimier.

Maybe there's a little league around here somewhere.

Sorry Filihok, but even Little League can't escape Americans' overwhelming desire to win. Don't forget Daniel Amonte's fake birth certificate.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A9679C8B63

[etothep]

First person to go in this controversy is...

[etothep]

Supposedly, the Nats are indeed thinking of firing Bowden

Between this debacle & his supposed skimming off the top of bonuses, it's not suprising

[filihok]

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/...=.jsp&c_id=was

Carlos Alvarez David Lugo is having some visa issues. Wonder why?

[gosensgo101]

Hmm. I have a feeling that Homeland Security doesn't appreciate people faking their identities. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's deported.