Los Diablos Rojos del México (2012 Expansion)

[200tang]

Diablos projected roster according to 200tang

C - Devin Mesoraco (CIN)
1B -
2B - Travis Denker (SFG)
SS - Troy Tulowitzki (COL)
3B - Allen Craig (STL)
RF - Scott Cousins (FLA)
CF - Trevor Crowe (CLE)
LF - Chris Petit (TOR)

Bench
- Rob Johnson(C) (SEA)
- Tommy Manzella(2B) (HOU)
- Brandon Moss(RF) (BOS)
- Ben Revere(CF) (MIN)
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Rotation
1 - Ian Snell (PIT)
2 - Anthony Swarzak (DET)
3 - Nick Adenhart (LOS)
4 - Jeff Marquez (NYY)
5 - Fabio Castillo (TEX)

Bullpen
CL - Mike Zagurski (PHI)
ST - Josh Fields (TAM)
SR - Fernando Hernandez (OAK)
SR - Ryan Perry (BAL)
MR - Luis Pena (MIL)
LR - Cory Luebke (SDP)

Minors
AAA - Reynaldo Navarro(SS) (ARI)
AAA - James Darnell(3B) (ATL)
AAA - Neil Ramirez(SP) (WSN)
AAA - Robert Hernandez(SP) (CHC)
AAA - Eddie Kunz(RP) (NYM)


Thoughts on updates - Eddie Kunz is basically cheap depth and a middle reliever. His best asset is striking out players with his worst being that he fails to locate his pitches anywhere near the strike zone and when he does they're usually right down the middle resulting in lots of hits and home runs. Watching him pitch makes one wish for the sweet embrace of some sort of eye cancer. The other player taken with him is young starting pitcher Neil Ramirez. It looks like Fili had to dive in to his Nationals bag of tricks. Ramirez looks like he'll eventually become a productive power pitcher. Ramirez is a great pitcher with lots of room to improve. Look for him in another year and a half to break in to the rotation.
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Robert Hernandez is a pitcher with a decent enough repertoire for his age and decent control and movement. He's pretty much a depth move so there isn't much to say. The other pitcher taken with him is Luis Pena. With Pena in the bullpen this leaves Kunz likely to be the odd man out. There's nothing that Kunz does better than Pena and they even have the same pitches although Pena throws the more difficult change.

Vegas projected roster according to 200tang

C - Jarrod Saltalamaccia (ARI)
1B - Paul Konerko (HOU)
2B - Matt Antonelli (SFG)
SS - Edgar Renteria (BAL)
3B - Jamie D'Antona (CHI)
RF - Xavier Paul (WAS)
CF - Jon Jay (STL)
LF - Fred Lewis (CIN)
DH - Yonder Alonso(1B) (PIT)

Bench
- Tony Gwynn Jr.(CF) (MIL)
- Michael Cuddyer(RF) (MIN)
- Robinzon Diaz(C) (TOR)
- Seth Smith(RF) (COL)
- Carlos Ruiz(C) (PHI)

Rotation
1 - Joe Blanton (OAK)
2 - Jair Jurrjens (ATL)
3 - Brad Penny (LOS)
4 - Josh Johnson (FLA)
5 - Blake Beaven (TEX)

Bullpen
CL - Brandon Lyon (LAA)
ST - Logan Kensing (NYM)
SR - Chad Cordero (KCR)
SR - Macay McBride (DET)
MR - Juan Morillo (SEA)
LR -

Minors
AAA - Will Middlebrooks(SS) (BOS)
AAA - Kevin Whelan(RP) (NYY)

Thoughts on updates - AH HA! I thought you would choose Ruiz soon. I've never been a big fan of carrying 3 catchers in BM, but it's never a bad thing and Ruiz definitely has the defensive capabilities. Ruiz will likely end up higher in the food chain than Diaz due to a much better OBP and defensive skills, but they'll each have their own roles to fill. With the addition of southpaw McBride it now confirms, in my mind, that Morillo will be used as a middle reliever. McBride has a pretty horrid recent history, but he is much better than that. He should post a high 3 ERA if he performs like he should.
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Well Seth Smith adds more depth to an already deep outfield core and with this move it pushes Yonder Alonso up to the DH role or possibly first base with Konerko moving to the DH (Despite Konerko being more susceptible to injury, he's the better fielder). Seth Smith will probably end up on the bench or become a depth AAA OF who will be called up during injuries. He's pretty much a league average fielder defensively and offensively who can only play right and a little left field. Also chosen was New York reliever Kevin Whelan who, just like Morillo, struggles with his command while posting high strikeout rates. Between the two Morillo has the better stuff by a bit which pushes Whelan down to AAA.

[200tang]

It seems like every time I think I'm caught up and get my rosters posted you guys suddenly draft like 100 players

Diablos projected roster according to 200tang

C - Devin Mesoraco (CIN)
1B - James Loney (LAD)
2B - Travis Denker (SFG)
SS - Troy Tulowitzki (COL)
3B - Allen Craig (STL)
RF - Scott Cousins (FLA)
CF - Trevor Crowe (CLE)
LF - Chris Petit (TOR)

Bench
- Rob Johnson(C) (SEA)
- Tommy Manzella(2B) (HOU)
- Brandon Moss(RF) (BOS)
- Ben Revere(CF) (MIN)
- James Darnell(3B) (ATL)
- Reynaldo Navarro(SS) (ARI)

Rotation
1 - Ian Snell (PIT)
2 - Anthony Swarzak (DET)
3 - Nick Adenhart (LOS)
4 - Jeff Marquez (NYY)
5 - Fabio Castillo (TEX)

Bullpen
CL - Mike Zagurski (PHI)
ST - Josh Fields (TAM)
SR - Fernando Hernandez (OAK)
SR - Ryan Perry (BAL)
MR - Luis Pena (MIL)
LR - Cory Luebke (SDP)

Minors
AAA - Neil Ramirez(SP) (WSN)
AAA - Robert Hernandez(SP) (CHC)
AAA - Eddie Kunz(RP) (NYM)
AAA - Luke Hochevar(SP) (KCR)


Thoughts on updates - Well the Diablos finally have their first basemen with the addition of James Loney. Loney is a great pickup and although he leaves some desiring more power from first base his glove work and contact make up for the dip in power compared to other power hitting first basemen. The final pick for the Diablos in the first round was starting pitcher Luke Hochevar and his insane repertoire. Okay..not insane, but it is a nice mix of pitches. Him and Luebke figure to battle for the long reliever role with no clear cut winner by physical talent alone.

Vegas projected roster according to 200tang

C - Jarrod Saltalamaccia (ARI)
1B - Paul Konerko (HOU)
2B - Matt Antonelli (SFG)
SS - Edgar Renteria (BAL)
3B - Jamie D'Antona (CHI)
RF - Xavier Paul (WAS)
CF - Jon Jay (STL)
LF - Fred Lewis (CIN)
DH - Yonder Alonso(1B) (PIT)

Bench
- Tony Gwynn Jr.(CF) (MIL)
- Matt Diaz (RF) (SDP)
- Robinzon Diaz(C) (TOR)
- Jemile Weeks(2B) (CLE)
- Carlos Ruiz(C) (PHI)

Rotation
1 - Joe Blanton (OAK)
2 - Jair Jurrjens (ATL)
3 - Brad Penny (LOS)
4 - Josh Johnson (FLA)
5 - Blake Beaven (TEX)

Bullpen
CL - Brandon Lyon (LAA)
ST - Logan Kensing (NYM)
SR - Chad Cordero (KCR)
SR - Macay McBride (DET)
MR - Juan Morillo (SEA)
LR - Matt Walker (TBR)

Minors
AAA - Will Middlebrooks(SS) (BOS)
AAA - Kevin Whelan(RP) (NYY)
AAA - Seth Smith(RF) (COL)
AAA - Michael Cuddyer(RF) (MIN)

Thoughts on updates - If my roster is close to what POC is thinking than I'm not sure I like Weeks much on the bench. Of course that all changes if he plans to carry Middlebrooks on the team. Going by what I have however, he now has 2 catchers, 2 outfielders (Gwynn could be a pinch runner too), and a second basemen with some speed who should only play second base. With Middlebrooks on the team anytime Renteria is injured Middlebrooks should get the call up so what POC needs to find in my opinion is another third basemen (hint : Mark Reynolds/Brandon Inge). Also being picked up is reliever Matt Walker. He fits the description of most of the relivers who were picked recently, walks a lot of batters while striking out a fair share. He does have the benefit of limiting hits and decent enough endurance to be a long reliever.
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The final choice of the first round was outfielder Matt Diaz. POC sure does have a mind like Bowden . Diaz could possibly be a DH if POC doesn't mind the lack of walks Diaz will take, but I think Yonder Alonso has the slight edge in overall offensive production. I'll put Diaz up on my bench with Cuddyer getting booted down to AAA, but all of the OF on this roster are interchangeable in my eyes.

[filihok]

and...

THE DRAFT IS OVER

That was one of the most exhausting things i've ever done involving a video game. It was great fun though. Maybe I'll do another one Thanks, for the millionth time - but still a millions thanks shy - to everyone who helped out. It made this a lot more interesting than if I'd just done it on spread sheets.

Unfortunately, I am so burnt out on Baseball Mogul, that I don't think I'll ever play the game again until 2K10 comes out...

[PotatoOfCouch13]

I'm glad we could finish this massive undertaking today. Hopefully we can get into the real action now!

thanks to filihok, for this great idea, and picking me to be a big part of it.

thanks to 200tang, whose insight was instrumental for some of my picks!

And although I'm partial to the Luck...

GO DIABLOS ROJOS!!!

[200tang]

Diablos projected roster according to 200tang

C - Brian Jeroloman (TOR)
1B - James Loney (LAD)
2B - Travis Denker (SFG)
SS - Troy Tulowitzki (COL)
3B - Gaby Sanchez (FLA)
RF - Scott Cousins (FLA)
CF - Trevor Crowe (CLE)
LF - Chris Pettit (TOR)

Bench
- Rob Johnson(C) (SEA)
- Tommy Manzella(2B) (HOU)
- Caleb Gindl(RF) (MIL)
- Ben Revere(CF) (MIN)
- Allen Craig(3B) (STL)
- Reynaldo Navarro(SS) (ARI)

Rotation
1 - Ian Snell (PIT)
2 - Anthony Swarzak (DET)
3 - Nick Adenhart (LOS)
4 - Jeff Marquez (NYY)
5 - Fabio Castillo (TEX)

Bullpen
CL - Mike Zagurski (PHI)
ST - Josh Fields (TAM)
SR - Fernando Hernandez (OAK)
SR - Ryan Perry (BAL)
MR - Luis Pena (MIL)
LR - Jeremy Bonderman (DET)

Minors
AAA - Neil Ramirez(SP) (WSN)
AAA - Robert Hernandez(SP) (CHC)
AAA - Eddie Kunz(RP) (NYM)
AAA - Luke Hochevar(SP) (KCR)
AAA - Devin Mesoraco(C) (CIN)
AAA - James Darnell(3B) (ATL)
AAA - Brandon Moss(RF) (BOS)
AAA - Ramon Troncoso(RP) (TEX)
AAA - Cory Luebke(SP) (SDP)


Second Round Player by Player

Brian Jeroloman(C) - He should project to be their starting opening day catcher with great offensive and defensive capabilities. After reviewing all the catchers I've bumped Devin down the minors and think Jeroloman has what it takes to be the starting catcher.

Ben Francisco(LF) - He's going to add depth to an already deep OF. He'll either make the team on the bench and push Navarro down to the minors to get some playing time down there or end up in the minors at AAA.

Gaby Sanchez(1B) - Huh? And I repeat Huh? Sanchez is a fine addition and is even attached to a decent $6 million salary. The only problem is that they already have Loney and playing in the NL makes me wonder where he fits in. Neither Loney or Sanchez can play 3B even at an average level, but I find it hard to believe he picks up Sanchez without some sort of plan. I'm guessing if he doesn't mind giving up a lot of defense Sanchez will play at third and he'll leave Loney at first. This would push Craig to the bench and Darnell to the minors.

Caleb Gindl(RF) - Hmm another good OF. I think that Brandon Moss will get booted to the minors. Moss provides more offensive power than Gindl, but other than that there isn't anything you can say Moss does significantly better and defensively it isn't a contest with Gindl having the advantage.

Ramon Troncoso(RP) - A nice pickup and despite a rough track record he should be pretty good although not great. His control and power are a bit too low to offset the movement imo, but you could make a case for starting him.

Jeremy Bonderman(SP) - The track record is pretty bad, but for someone with the CON/POW/MOV he has it's hard to believe it. I'm not sure if he has enough talent to make the rotation, but he should be arguably the best long reliever in the league.


Projected Opening Day Lineup
1 - Trevor Crowe(CF)
2 - Chris Pettit(LF)
3 - Gaby Sanchez(3B)
4 - James Loney(1B)
5 - Scott Cousins(RF)
6 - Troy Tulowitzki(SS)
7 - Brian Jeroloman(C)
8 - Travis Denker(2B)
9 - [Pitchers Slot]

[200tang]

Vegas projected roster according to 200tang

C - Jarrod Saltalamaccia (ARI)
1B - Paul Konerko (HOU)
2B - Matt Antonelli (SFG)
SS - Edgar Renteria (BAL)
3B - Mark Reynolds (ARI) $
RF - Xavier Paul (WAS)
CF - Jon Jay (STL)
LF - Fred Lewis (CIN)
DH - Yonder Alonso(1B) (PIT)

Bench
- Tony Gwynn Jr.(CF) (MIL)
- Matt Diaz (LF) (SDP)
- Jamie D'Antona(3B) (CHI)
- Jemile Weeks(2B) (CLE)
- Carlos Ruiz(C) (PHI)

Rotation
1 - Joe Blanton (OAK)
2 - Jair Jurrjens (ATL)
3 - Brad Penny (LOS)
4 - Josh Johnson (FLA)
5 - Blake Beaven (TEX)

Bullpen
CL - Brandon Lyon (LAA)
ST - Logan Kensing (NYM)
SR - Chad Cordero (KCR)
SR - Macay McBride (DET)
MR - Juan Morillo (SEA)
LR - Matt Walker (TBR)

Minors
AAA - Will Middlebrooks(SS) (BOS)
AAA - Kevin Whelan(RP) (NYY)
AAA - Michael Cuddyer(RF) (MIN)
AAA - Robinzon Diaz(C) (TOR)
AAA - Barry Enright(SP) (WSN)
AAA - Scot Shields(RP) (NYY)
AA - Robbie Ross(SP) (STL)
AA - Jeff Steiner(1B) (CIN)
AA - Charlie Culberson(SS) (SFG)
AA - Seth Smith(RF) (COL)

Second Round Player by Player

Mark Reynolds(3B) - Not sure if POC had him on his list or got the idea from the last post, but Reynolds is a power hitting third basemen with average skills everywhere else. Last year in Arizona he posted a .371 OBP and 26 home runs in 318 AB's and will be another great power bat and will compliment Konerko (or the other way around) very well. To my knowledge he's the first player who's contract will end this year, but a rent a player at the cost of a second round pick is still a great idea. Who knows, maybe he puts up impressive numbers and Vegas decides to keep him. Reynolds looks like he'll push D'Antona to the bench with Robinzon Diaz getting kicked down to the minors as an emergency catcher.

Barry Enright(SP) - Enright is a 25 year old WIP. He never projects to be better than a #3 pitcher in my eyes, but he looks like he has a solid future. He could be used as a long reliever since the Luck's current one doesn't have much in the way of endurance, but I think he'll end up pitching in the minors. Could Enright have been chosen to prevent Fili from dipping in to the WSN pool of players? Who knows. (except POC of course)

Robbie Ross(SP) - Another WIP like Enright, but much younger (22) and has the added value of being a southpaw. There are health concerns with Ross, but he should be durable enough to have a starting gig until his 30's once he makes it out of the minors.

Jeff Steiner(1B) - A power/contact hitter with average defensive skills, Steiner looks to be at best a power lefty bench bat with the possibility of starting at third base if developed enough defensively.

Charlie Culberson(SS) - Another WIP player. Culberson looks like he'll become a wiz with the glove and his offense should come around to at least league average. He'll have to compete with Middlebrooks for a future starting gig. Assuming POC doesn't forget that having 2 position players at the same level hurts development, expect to see him in AA next year.

Scot Shields(RP) - I won't say much because everybody knows him at this point. He provides a nice backup option and you could make a case he's better than Morillo, but I see him working in AAA until needed.

Projected Opening Day Lineup
1 - Jon Jay(CF)
2 - Fred Lewis(LF)
3 - Paul Konerko(1B)
4 - Mark Reynolds(3B)
5 - Jarrod Saltalamaccia(C)
6 - Xavier Paul(RF)
7 - Yonder Alonso(DH)
8 - Matt Antonelli(2B)
9 - Edger Renteria(SS)

[filihok]

With all due respect to 200tang (and his blatant Luck-leaning insights), whenever there is a draft, what we really want to know is 'Who won?' and 'Who lost?' Well, here is our answer.






I won! Big time! At least according to the folks at the BM ratings department

[YEAH DAAAAWG]

Unfortunately, I am so burnt out on Baseball Mogul, that I don't think I'll ever play the game again until 2K10 comes out...

This better be sarcasm, mister!

[200tang]

Where will Loney end up once he's healthy?

Whoa, Juan Morillo is closing?! I had him as MR at best >.>

Oh yeah, what's the +/- to scouting?

[BINGLEBOP]

That looks good, albeit a little more highly-rated than I usually see (or like to have) with an expansion team, but every "GM" you used had different criteria on who to protect and who not to protect, so that makes sense. I'm looking forward to following this dynasty, if for nothing else to see the Mexico City offense.

BRING BACK 14-12 WINS!

[filihok]

That looks good, albeit a little more highly-rated than I usually see (or like to have) with an expansion team, but every "GM" you used had different criteria on who to protect and who not to protect, so that makes sense.

I also went about a quarter of a trizzillion dollars over my budget, so that might have put my ratings a bit higher than they would have been otherwise.

I'm looking forward to following this dynasty, if for nothing else to see the Mexico City offense.

BRING BACK 14-12 WINS!

Didn't you see all the pitchers and defense I drafted???



What have I done? I went from 'kid who likes baseball' to 'baseball fan' watching the 1988 Dodgers and Orel Hershiser's 59 consecutive scoreless innings. I feel sick.

[BINGLEBOP]

BRING BACK 14-12 WINS!

Didn't you see all the pitchers and defense I drafted???

I stand corrected. I forgot that your park effects aren't in the 200's for home runs and are merely in the 130's (for doubles as well) and in the 170's for triples. So I will revise that...

BRING BACK 10-8 WINS!

[OldFatGuy]

and...

THE DRAFT IS OVER

That was one of the most exhausting things i've ever done involving a video game. It was great fun though. Maybe I'll do another one Thanks, for the millionth time - but still a millions thanks shy - to everyone who helped out. It made this a lot more interesting than if I'd just done it on spread sheets.

Unfortunately, I am so burnt out on Baseball Mogul, that I don't think I'll ever play the game again until 2K10 comes out...

I would like to thank YOU for such a fun idea, and if you're burnt out I hope when you do come back to it you'll continue this league. In fact, I was actually wondering if you might post the .mog file of the league after the draft so maybe I could play around with it????? Sorry, like I said, I'm now attached to this league, and the draft just made it even more interesting. What a great idea!

[filihok]

I will definitely continue this league. I'm trying to figure out in what capacity exactly.

I've been trying to upload .mogs for days with no success. So take that up with Dee...I have 2 for the Nats dynasty that need to go up, and one for this one.

[BINGLEBOP]

I will definitely continue this league. I'm trying to figure out in what capacity exactly.

I've been trying to upload .mogs for days with no success. So take that up with Dee...I have 2 for the Nats dynasty that need to go up, and one for this one.

I think emailing MOG files is the best way to go. That's what I've been doing.