Los Diablos Rojos del México (2012 Expansion)

[BINGLEBOP]

Also, is PoC going to be starting a Las Vegas dynasty alongside yours? That could be interesting, but I'm guessing he's just filling in the role of drafting the team.

[PotatoOfCouch13]

I'm just filling a role. I'm committed to my Griffey dynasty right now, but it seemed like a lot of fun participating in this massive undertaking!

[filihok]

He's just helping out.

And he's an awesome guy for helping out.

It could have been a really really cool idea if two guys wanted to start their own dynasties from the same place and used the same draft. Shoulda thought of that

[ewing6]

It could have been a really really cool idea if two guys wanted to start their own dynasties from the same place and used the same draft. Shoulda thought of that

That would be rellay cool and great start dude

[JeepGuy63]

That Fil Ihok guy! Is he crazy? He had a great job in Washington!

[200tang]

As I'm paying attention to the draft I've got my BBM open :>

[filihok]

RE Jeepguy: He did/does...

RE 200tang:How are we doing so far? Feel free to give you unabashed criticism or praise!

[rockiesfan4ever]

I am definately reading now as you picked Tulo

[200tang]

one question I have is, are you guys drafting with peaks on or off?

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The only thing I found odd was some of the players being protected over others on the list, but that's really just my opinion which doesn't make it right

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One player that may be a good late pick just because he interests me is Ronald Belisario whos a RP for the Pirates. He's a 29 year old southpaw with FIVE PITCHES and decent enough CON/POW/MOV to provide some good decent innings for a few years. If it were me I would try him out as a starter if you're not afraid of his control and power dropping in return for endurance.

[200tang]

Diablos projected roster according to 200tang

$ = contract year

C -
1B -
2B -
SS - Troy Tulowitzki (COL)
3B -
RF -
CF -
LF - Chris Petit (TOR)

Bench
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-
-
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-

Rotation
1 - Ian Snell (PIT)
2 - Anthony Swarzak (DET)
3 - Nick Adenhart (LAA)
4 - Fabio Castillo (TEX)
5 -

Bullpen
CL -
ST -
SR - Josh Fields (TAM)
SR -
MR -
LR -

My Thoughts So Far - Seems like he's gone with a defense/pitching minded team so far. Tulo and Chris Petit are both plus defenders with decent enough offense and his pitching is looking very strong. Despite Castillo being his second drafted pitcher, he'll likely be pushed down in the rotation this year since he will likely need more time to develop before becoming a legitimate #2. Fields will provide great value in the long run, but to me he seems more suited to either setup or short relief depending on who else is drafted.



Vegas projected roster according to 200tang

C - Jarrod Saltalamaccia (ARI)
1B -
2B -
SS -
3B -
RF -
CF -
LF -

Bench
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Rotation
1 - Joe Blanton (OAK)
2 - Jair Jurrjens (ATL)
3 - Brad Penny (LOS)
4 - Josh Johnson (FLA)
5 -

Bullpen
CL - Chad Cordero (KCR)
ST -
SR -
SR -
MR -
LR -

My Thoughts So Far - So far he's gone with the pitching mentality. The only two I have yet to disagree with so far are Josh Johnson ahead of Brad Penny and picking Salty second. I have yet to look deeply in to catchers not protected, but just by a quick glance I think I would have taken the Phillies Carlos Ruiz over Salty. Ruiz comes 4 years older, but also $4 million less. The contract year could be a warning sign however, but even so he wouldn't have cost you your second pick and he likely will still make less than $6 million unless he hits .400 or something ridiculous. Salty likely would have still been available in to the early teens as well imo and even if you lost out on him, there are lots of good defensive minded catchers with decent enough bats out there that could be had later on.

So far pretty good signings though and remember, this is only my opinion

[filihok]

Nice job on your analysis. And caring enough to do so...

To answer your question, I'm drafting with peaks off. I told Potato he could use them or not use them, I dunno what he picked

[200tang]

alright then, if I suggest anymore picks I'll be sure to try and stray away form guys with nice upside as best I can since I'm using commish mode.

[OldFatGuy]

My Thoughts So Far - Seems like he's gone with a defense/pitching minded team so far.

My Thoughts So Far - So far he's gone with the pitching mentality.

ALWAYS, ALWAYS build a team from pitching, IMO. Always. If you've got good pitching, you're in almost every game. If you've got good hitting (which good pitching can stop) but mediocre pitching, there are lots of games you don't have a chance.

If I had to build a team from the bottom up, my first 5 picks are almost ALWAYS going to be pitching. Pitching, pitching, pitching. It's what wins championships.

IMO.

[200tang]

ALWAYS, ALWAYS build a team from pitching, IMO. Always. If you've got good pitching, you're in almost every game. If you've got good hitting (which good pitching can stop) but mediocre pitching, there are lots of games you don't have a chance.

If I had to build a team from the bottom up, my first 5 picks are almost ALWAYS going to be pitching. Pitching, pitching, pitching. It's what wins championships.

IMO.

Of course I couldn't agree with you more, but it wouldn't be the first time a team tried to go out and acquire good offensive players over pitching, so I just thought I would point out that they had both taken the pitching approach.

The way I see it, if you drafted batters first, the other team is likely only going to sign 5 - 7 Starters that are league ready before moving on to offense and that should leave some decent ones later on. On top of that, BM loves making 50%+ of the ammy draft pitchers, so if you were banking on getting some good pitchers in next years draft and getting some decent gap fillers in the off season, going offensive minded in to the expansion draft wouldn't be too crazy.

But to each his own I guess.

[200tang]

Just to show an example, here are some pitchers worth looking at in the AAA-AA level that would likely have lasted quite awhile in the draft and could serve as pretty good 3-5 guys. I checked all these with peaks off btw; These are roughly ranked from best at the top to worst at the bottom and keep in mind this was quick.

AAA Gio Gonzalez(OAK)
AAA Ryan Tucker(FLA)
AA Clayton Tanner(SFG)
AA Brent Fisher(KCR)
AAA Brett Sinkbeil(SDP)
AAA Elizardo Ramirez(TEX)
AAA Chase Wright(NYY)