Are you freaking kidding me?!!?!?!?!? A-Rod update

[Jeffy25]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[Jeffy25]

That was like reading an article from the Onion. You can't just erase it from the record books. It happened, it has effected baseball. but what, are you going to act like Bonds' career never happened? change all pitcher's numbers that faced him? take away the fielding numbers players had? take away the honors won? Are they going to act like these players never existed? IMO this is absurd.

[Jeffy25]

you can't punish someone for something that carried no disciplinary action when the crime was done.

[filihok]

It was against the law. Murder isn't expressly forbidden by MLB rules but I'd think a player could be suspended for that

Furthermore, as Barry Bonds approaches a March 2 trial date on charges of lying to a federal grand jury about performance-enhancing drugs, Selig added he was considering the reinstatement of Henry Aaron as the rightful home run king in the official record books.

[dickay]

That was like reading an article from the Onion. You can't just erase it from the record books. It happened, it has effected baseball. but what, are you going to act like Bonds' career never happened? change all pitcher's numbers that faced him? take away the fielding numbers players had? take away the honors won? Are they going to act like these players never existed? IMO this is absurd.

This I agree with.

you can't punish someone for something that carried no disciplinary action when the crime was done.

This I don't. In no way am I saying they should punish him, but there are "conduct" clauses in the contracts that encompass more than simple everyday baseball rules.

[200tang]

Might as well just purge everybody's name from the past 40ish years from any records :-\

And I don't get why they're suspending him for not breaking any rules. If they do really suspend A-Rod for a year or make Aaron the 'official' home run king then I personally feel like they totally handled the whole performance enhancer thing wrong.

[dickay]

Furthermore, as Barry Bonds approaches a March 2 trial date on charges of lying to a federal grand jury about performance-enhancing drugs, Selig added he was considering the reinstatement of Henry Aaron as the rightful home run king in the official record books.

I truly hope Selig isn't considering something this stupid. And if so...ARODs MVP needs to go, and the 2000 Yankee title for starters.

[Jeffy25]

well then in respect to dickay and fili: what do you think about the idea of erasing Bond's as the home run king?

Personally....that is just ridiculous. While we are at it, let's reinstate Maris as the home run king

[Jeffy25]

I truly hope Selig isn't considering something this stupid. And if so...ARODs MVP needs to go, and the 2000 Yankee title for starters.

He wasn't a Yankee is 2000

[Jeffy25]

A suspension of A-Rod would really make me lose some faith here. The guy came out and admitted to doing some GNC products that could have stated he was positive. The drugs in question didn't make him bigger, in fact if anything, just more lean....and there can't be any proof that says this lead to him hitting home runs.

As tang said: if you do this, you might as well just erase the last 40 years from the books.

[Jeffy25]

This article seems slightly slanted. Apparently all Selig really said was, "He hasn't ruled out punishment yet."

[200tang]

This article seems slightly slanted. Apparently all Selig really said was, "He hasn't ruled out punishment yet."

Well as long as he gets the same punishment as Jason Giambi.....

[Pavelb1]

It was against the law. Murder isn't expressly forbidden by MLB rules but I'd think a player could be suspended for that

Are they going to take away the Mets championship too then? Strike down every record Strawberry and company held? Suspend Howard Johnson?

[Jeffy25]

Are they going to take away the Mets championship too then? Strike down every record Strawberry and company held? Suspend Howard Johnson?

Ken Caminiti needs to be suspended too....I mean he may have passed away, but let's suspend him for good measure.

[Alloutwar]

I feel that steroid players should be punished somehow, but it's almost impossible at this point. Bonds is obviously tainted in my eyes, and his HR number being at the top sucks...and should have the *. But to punish A-Rod now seems almost whimsical - 6 years after, with the report illegally released...what about all the others who have already retired??

A-Rod will get a hit from fans, and lose sponsorship/advertising income. And it will be headache for him the rest of his career. Seems fine (actually, seems light on those who did and remain silent). Selig can't do anything when the league kept letting it go for what, 20 years? At least?? Just keep things clean and strict in every possible way from here on out.

I did like Oswalt's take, saying that an A-Rod homer from '03 could have cost him a game, cost him money in incentives, cost his team wins and playoff spots. Oswalt was outspoken in how much someone cheating the game could potentially affect others. I don't agree that you can wipe everything A-Rod's done from the books, but it's good to know some players out there feel slighted at these types of things, and they're not all in on the act.