feds victimize family to get trainer to talk

[Wassit3]

http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-...rs-motherinlaw

[HoustonGM]

This nonsense is getting more ridiculous by the day. ShysterBall's take sums up my belief perfectly.

[dps]

Much as I would love to see Bonds doing some time in prison, at this point there's been enough money wasted on the situation. Time to back off, I think--actually, well past time.

[haveacigar]

This is ridiculous. How much good is really going to come out of throwing Bonds in the slammer? He's not some menace to society. Just give him his trial already, and move the F on. I can't believe how sympathetic I've gotten towards Barry Bonds these days.

[Wassit3]

This nonsense is getting more ridiculous by the day. ShysterBall's take sums up my belief perfectly.

but do they, the government, even have a purery case even? there was an article posted on here that says that at the time of alleged use the cream nor the clear were not considered steroids by the federal government and in fact wasn't classified as such until 2005 or 2006! well after his testimony...

[HoustonGM]

I don't think they care if they have a case or not. It's a witch hunt, not a court proceeding, at this point.

[haveacigar]

but do they, the government, even have a purery case even? there was an article posted on here that says that at the time of alleged use the cream nor the clear were not considered steroids by the federal government and in fact wasn't classified as such until 2005 or 2006! well after his testimony...

If they had a case, I'm sure they wouldn't be squeezing Anderson's family to get him to talk.

[dickay]

if he lied under oath, he deserves jail time. if they believe he did and have evidence to prove it...i have no problem with them looking to solidify their case with more.

[HoustonGM]

if he lied under oath, he deserves jail time. if they believe he did and have evidence to prove it...i have no problem with them looking to solidify their case with more.

That's the thing...they don't have the evidence to prove it...which is why they're continuing to pour unnecessary amounts of money into it.

[dickay]

That's the thing...they don't have the evidence to prove it...which is why they're continuing to pour unnecessary amounts of money into it.

do you have evidence of this? And while they may not have 'enough' evidence at this point, do they have any? If they do....than of course they need to continue investigating those leads to see if there is enough which will convince a jury.

Also...I for one believe he knowingly took steroids. You have stated in these forums that you believe the same at one point or another. We base our opinions on circumstantial evidence.

If that is true, than you to believe he lied while under oath when he said he didn't. I believe he may have lied about many more facts than just using roids however. I don't believe they should pursue perjury cases based upon hunches and/or gut feelings...but if they have anything which is more than that then I believe they should investigate it fully.

I'm sorry....but I view lying under oath as a very very serious crime that needs to be fully prosecuted. I'm not going to waver on that belief because i'm tired of reading about a lengthy public investigation. I also feel the initial link given in this thread is extremely biased. His tone during the article shows that his mind was made up before even beginning to pen it. Exactly why the govt. was at the mother in laws house apparently was not important to him.

[HoustonGM]

Read this guy's take. That sums up how I feel. (and a shorter bit here)


And what haveacigar said: "If they had a case, I'm sure they wouldn't be squeezing Anderson's family to get him to talk."

[dickay]

Read this guy's take. That sums up how I feel. (and a shorter bit here)


And what haveacigar said: "If they had a case, I'm sure they wouldn't be squeezing Anderson's family to get him to talk."

these people are being charged with tax evasion....why are they being proclaimed to be victims?

Moral of the story is, if you're going to open yourself up to legal scrutiny by say....lying under oath....you had better have a clean closet. Of course the govt. is going to look in the underwear drawer, and if a CRIME was committed....even if it was unrelated, they have to act on it.

[HoustonGM]

If I lied under oath about sticking a needle in my ass, they wouldn't be expending all their resources to try and nail me.

[dickay]

If I lied under oath about sticking a needle in my ass, they wouldn't be expending all their resources to try and nail me.

Its not only the little guy who can lie under oath and get away with it. "It depends on what the meaning of the word is, is."

Anyway, if your lie was made during a a large scale grand jury investigation into the use/distribution of an illegal substance in sports, or something similar, I would hope they used whatever resources necessary to prosecute you for it.

Your point about them spending these resources because of the notoriety of Bonds is taken. However, I feel the govt. intentions are not so much with Bonds but with knowing the full extent of the distribution ring. Who he got it from, how they got it and who they gave it to. It's much bigger picture than Bonds. Bonds obstructed justice however. If he had simply come clean...the govt. would lay off.

So in short...if they believed you lied under oath about putting a needle in your a$$ and they had some type of evidence that led them to believe you not only lied but have knowledge of that bigger 'ring', then I believe they'd put quite a bit of resources into your pricked a$$ as well.

[HoustonGM]

Nailing Bonds on perjury charges doesn't get them any close to this "ring."