All-Time Positional Rankings

[BINGLEBOP]

OK, that makes sense.

[HoustonGM]

Right fielders:

1. Babe Ruth
2. Hank Aaron
3. Mel Ott
4. Frank Robinson
5. Paul Waner
6. Pete Rose
7. Al Kaline
8. Sam Crawford
9. Reggie Jackson
10. Roberto Clemente
11. Tony Gwynn
12. King Kelly
13. Joe Jackson
14. Harry Heilmann
15. Elmer Flick
16. Enos Slaughter
17. Dave Winfield
18. Dwight Evans
19. Willie Keeler
20. Reggie Smith
21. Sam Thompson

Now it's time to figure out what to do with pitchers, and to start ranking the non-HoM guys.

[wahoosamC]

Like the CF rankings, nice to see Charleston and Stearnes get some recognition along with all the other Negro Leaguer's you've listed in the rankings.

[dps]

I hate to say it, but I think you have Clemente too high.

[HoustonGM]

I hate to say it, but I think you have Clemente too high.

Him and Gwynn could easily be flip-flopped. I can't see ranking him any lower than 12th, though, maybe 13th if you're an extreme peak ranker and put Shoeless Joe above him.

[HoustonGM]

Okay, I've begun ranking the non-HoM players, and now here's where I could use your help. I started at third base:

1. Tommy Leach
2. Ron Cey
3. Buddy Bell
4. Robin Ventura
5. Toby Harrrah
6. Bob Elliott
7. Bus Clarkson
8. Pie Traynor
9. Lave Cross
10. Matt Williams
11. Sal Bando
12. Al Rosen
13. Ned Williamson

I'm also going to rank Tommy Leach with the center fielders, which is probably where he "officially" belongs, although he spent basically equal time at both third and center.

Anyway, what I need your help on is letting me know if you think I've forgotten any third basemen. I'll post the other positions as I get around to them, but we'll start off at third base. So, anybody I've forgotten? Only include players that last played in 2004 or earlier, though, as the more recent players are not yet HoM-eligible.

[dps]

Edgar Martinez last played in 2004, so I guess that he should be on the list. He didn't play a lot of games at 3rd, but the vast majority of his time in the field was there.

[HoustonGM]

Edgar Martinez last played in 2004, so I guess that he should be on the list. He didn't play a lot of games at 3rd, but the vast majority of his time in the field was there.

I'm keeping Edgar separate, and just mixing him in when I combine each position into an overall ranking (which is what will constitute my ballot for next year's HoM election).

[HoustonGM]

Cross-posting these last few posts to a new thread.

[scooterbracy]

Anyway, what I need your help on is letting me know if you think I've forgotten any third basemen. I'll post the other positions as I get around to them, but we'll start off at third base. So, anybody I've forgotten? Only include players that last played in 2004 or earlier, though, as the more recent players are not yet HoM-eligible.

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/posit...ankings/3B.php

Some names on there that may be worth looking into.

[HoustonGM]

http://www.thebaseballpage.com/posit...ankings/3B.php

Some names on there that may be worth looking into.

Those are really...odd...rankings. Wade Boggs 8th? Pie Traynor 11th? Al Rosen in the top 20? Al Rosen being so high makes me think it was extremely peak-based...but then Gary Gaetti is ahead of John McGraw...and Matt Williams is far ahead of Robin Ventura even though Ventura was better at both hitting and defense...No mention of Negro Leaguers Jud Wilson and John Beckwith, and then I checked their SS rankings and they have Pop Lloyd in the "Best of the Unranked" category...and Alex Rodriguez ahead of Honus Wagner...and Barry Larkin 3rd and Cal Ripken 10th? And at first base they have Cap Anson 22nd, behind Don Mattingly? WTF?

The rankings are a total joke...but, thank you for the link since at least its a ton of names to look through.