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    Re: CC to the Yanks?!

    the thing is... he has an opt out clause and has for him guarenteed 160... now if it was 120 and others offered 100 id say its about the $$$ but if its 60% more than anyone else i hate to say t but i gotta side with him. after 3 years he opts out and signs again for 5-6 years at a relative young age again
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies View Post
    They would unfortunately likely end up trading Lowell and moving Youk to 3rd base. However, I am against signing Texiera, as we have Lars Anderson, who we better not trade, because he rivals Matt Weiters as one of the best.
    You're overrating your guy just a tad.

    Quote Originally Posted by ragecage View Post
    To answer your question as to why Houston, it just seems like whoever signs a big contract and goes to New York doesnt work out. I think a big portion is the media, they put so much pressure on those players, I dont see how Rivera and Jeter do what they do in that environment.
    The players that have signed big contracts in NY, off the top of my head...Giambi, Pavano, Wright, A-Rod, Jeter, Rivera, Damon....Pavano, Giambi and Wright all got injured, and Wright and Pavano especially were poor signings to begin with....A-Rod, Jeter, Damon and Rivera have all done fine. I'm probably missing some guys from recent years, but the prevailing reason why the big Yankee deals haven't worked is injury, which is entirely unrelated to the media.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    CC Sabathia doesn't make a team, he's not worth 160 million, he's not even worth 100 million.
    He's easily worth 100 million, and may very well be worth 160 million.

    Sabathia had 2 good seasons. 1 of which was in the NL.
    He's had 3 fantastic seasons, half of one of which was in the NL.

    Sabathia from 01-05 never had a ERA better then 3.6, and the other 3 were above 4 ERA. His whip near 1.3.
    Right. Between the ages 20 and 24, he was a slightly above league average pitcher, which, for a guy that young with his pedigree is an excellent sign for the future. In 2006, he showed significant improvement in both his walk rate and his strikeout rate, both of which have continued to improve. He's NOT the same pitcher he was between the ages of 20-24, so pointing to those years is meaningless. He's one of the top 3 starters in the game without a doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    I hate this, CC Sabathia, the person who I thought actually cared about where he plays, how it fits his family, wasn't about the money, took the highest offer from the Yanks. I hate this, my favorite player on the brewers go to the yankees, and now we have to listen to all these fans saying how there team is going to win the world series. CC Sabathia doesn't make a team, he's not worth 160 million, he's not even worth 100 million. Sabathia had 2 good seasons. 1 of which was in the NL. Sabathia from 01-05 never had a ERA better then 3.6, and the other 3 were above 4 ERA. His whip near 1.3. Sabathia the person who I thought doesn't care about the money, I was wrong about him. And now, Sabathia, your just like every other player who leaves for the money, and I say a **** you to you and hope you have a terrible season in New York.
    Hey man think about it... What would you do in his case? I had the same thing happen when Johnny Damon turned Yankee. But really, what would you do in their case? I know that most of us would go for more money, especially in this bad economic situation. I still like Johnny, even though he is a Yank. He has a life to consider, and we don't make his decisions. So don't let this make you hate him. i am not saying that i would sign with the Yankee, seeing as I hate the city and the team, but if another team offered me a lot of money, chances are, unless Boston or Colorado was offering me something, I would take it.


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    Hey man think about it... What would you do in his case? I had the same thing happen when Johnny Damon turned Yankee. But really, what would you do in their case? I know that most of us would go for more money, especially in this bad economic situation. I still like Johnny, even though he is a Yank. He has a life to consider, and we don't make his decisions. So don't let this make you hate him. i am not saying that i would sign with the Yankee, seeing as I hate the city and the team, but if another team offered me a lot of money, chances are, unless Boston or Colorado was offering me something, I would take it.
    If you think about it this way, the Brewers offered 5/100 which is 20 million per year, Yankees offered about 22 million per year. Now, your signed with the Yanks for 7 years, while for the Brewers 5 years and they were willing to do the opt-out also after 3 years. So now you get to play closer to home, play in a clubhouse your familar with and where you would be the star in Wisconsin for a long time. In New York, your just considered a player, and they will boo you no matter what after 1 bad game. I would pick a place where I would want to bat, and a place where im comfortable in, for 3 million less. It's not like you can't live off of 20 million per year, compared to 23 million per year.


    Houston, no player is worth 160 million, that's just ridiculous. Not one player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    Houston, no player is worth 160 million, that's just ridiculous. Not one player.
    According to you, sure. According to the market, yes, they easily can be.

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    I didn't say that players won't get that type of money, I just don't think any player is worth that much. When Silva gets 11 million per year, you know something's wrong with the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    he's not even worth 100 million.
    Yes he is

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    A guy who pitches 25 games, is worth 100 million? Maybe I should learn how to pitch then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    I hate this, CC Sabathia, the person who I thought actually cared about where he plays, how it fits his family, wasn't about the money, took the highest offer from the Yanks. I hate this, my favorite player on the brewers go to the yankees, and now we have to listen to all these fans saying how there team is going to win the world series. CC Sabathia doesn't make a team, he's not worth 160 million, he's not even worth 100 million. Sabathia had 2 good seasons. 1 of which was in the NL. Sabathia from 01-05 never had a ERA better then 3.6, and the other 3 were above 4 ERA. His whip near 1.3. Sabathia the person who I thought doesn't care about the money, I was wrong about him. And now, Sabathia, your just like every other player who leaves for the money, and I say a **** you to you and hope you have a terrible season in New York.
    He was on the Brewers for less than one year. Everyone knew this was happening. He was neve going to sign with the Brewers.....if he had that loyalty or whatever you were wanting..he'd have signed an extension with his real team..the Indians. Quit crying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    A guy who pitches 25 games, is worth 100 million? Maybe I should learn how to pitch then.
    http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/salaries/top50

    Look at the salaries of MLB players. Now just speaking strictly of an 100 million dollar deal, it would be worth it. Remember, Sabathia is a young ace who's proved his is durable both in the AL and NL.

    BTW, it did kind of seem like you thought he was worth 100 million or more previously. At the very least, a 90 million dollar offer was "embarassing"

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    Why even offer him a deal then? 5 yrs 90 million would be an embarassing offer in my opinion to a guy who carried you into the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KowboyKoop View Post
    He was on the Brewers for less than one year. Everyone knew this was happening. He was neve going to sign with the Brewers.....if he had that loyalty or whatever you were wanting..he'd have signed an extension with his real team..the Indians. Quit crying.
    Agreed

    I feel sorry for Brewer fans here, but everyone knew Sabathia was going to be a rental.

    But I am just glad the Yankees finally have the ace they desperately needed, and this allows Wang to become a number two starter!

    I don't care if we overpaid. The Yankees have the payroll room to do that. Fact is, we have a young ace in the prime of his career. Whoo

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    For shame CC... for shame... you have to be a serious scumbag to sign with the Stankees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    For shame CC... for shame... you have to be a serious scumbag to sign with the Stankees.
    You are right

    Everyone should not sign with the Yankees. If you ever become a player in Sabathia's caliber, and become a free agent, I can't wait to see you leave 60 million on the table to not sign with the Yankees

    Typical Yankee bias

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewCrewFan255 View Post
    I hate this, CC Sabathia, the person who I thought actually cared about where he plays, how it fits his family, wasn't about the money, took the highest offer from the Yanks. I hate this, my favorite player on the brewers go to the yankees, and now we have to listen to all these fans saying how there team is going to win the world series. CC Sabathia doesn't make a team, he's not worth 160 million, he's not even worth 100 million. Sabathia had 2 good seasons. 1 of which was in the NL. Sabathia from 01-05 never had a ERA better then 3.6, and the other 3 were above 4 ERA. His whip near 1.3. Sabathia the person who I thought doesn't care about the money, I was wrong about him. And now, Sabathia, your just like every other player who leaves for the money, and I say a **** you to you and hope you have a terrible season in New York.
    Quote Originally Posted by KowboyKoop View Post
    He was on the Brewers for less than one year. Everyone knew this was happening. He was neve going to sign with the Brewers.....if he had that loyalty or whatever you were wanting..he'd have signed an extension with his real team..the Indians. Quit crying.
    I have to agree with Koop. Come on, it's common sense. There was little to no chance that the Brewers would end up signing Sabathia and remaining competitive while devoting that much of their payroll to him. They "made the attempt" and C.C. said he "enjoyed his time in Milwaukee". They always say and do that... both sides. The team makes and offer and can say "we tried our best" and the player can have another option that way. The Brewers knew this could happen when they traded for him, and I would hope all of their fans did as well!

    There's also a reason that it took THREE MEETINGS with C.C. Sabathia for the Yankees to sign him. There's a reason he didn't jump at the contract the moment it was offered. THAT's what I found surprising and interesting about C.C. Sabathia. THAT tells me that he's not only about the money. Maybe, just maybe, he really was considering what was the best fit for him and his family... and his wife was included in the final meeting as well. Being that he hadn't lived or pitched in New York before (aside from a couple of times per season), it makes perfect sense that he wanted to do his research, talk to management, talk to players, to see what it's like. Who wouldn't do their research before making a huge decision like this?!? The largest contract does not equal a player not caring about his family.

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