Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 32

Thread: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    5,223

    Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .

  2. #2
    FRENCHREDSOX Guest

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom


  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Exciting Leduc, Alberta!
    Posts
    6,195

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Yeah...it's the Yankees who are the ONLY TEAM buying talent out there...

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    5,223

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    If the Japanese professional league and MLB never actually put it in writing that the MLB teams could not go after Japanese amateurs and vice versa they should have know it was just a matter of time before it happened, haven't they learned anything over the centuries from dealing with us westerners??
    Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Issaquah, WA
    Posts
    3

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    The Nippon League never drafted him, instead he played for Japan Oil, he has every right to go to sign with a MLB Team.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Watson MN
    Posts
    641

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Japan should not be that upset. They honored his request. They should have thought he would want to come to the States.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,016

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by flapper View Post
    Japan should not be that upset. They honored his request. They should have thought he would want to come to the States.
    They're just pissed they won't get 50 to 60 million just to talk to the kid.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    5,223

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by JeepGuy63 View Post
    They're just pissed they won't get 50 to 60 million just to talk to the kid.
    bingo
    Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are .

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Edison, NJ
    Posts
    15,636

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    There's a cultural clash occurring here. It doesn't seem to me that the money is the primary issue to the Japanese (although, that's certainly part of it), rather it's some form of Japanese honor that we're misunderstanding.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Republic of Georgia
    Posts
    12,385

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by ohms_law View Post
    There's a cultural clash occurring here. It doesn't seem to me that the money is the primary issue to the Japanese (although, that's certainly part of it), rather it's some form of Japanese honor that we're misunderstanding.
    Probably not all that dissimilar than how some people got worked up over THIS

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    1,382

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Or how the managers would tell pitchers to pitch around American players who were chasing the HR records over there. I think Alex Cabrera is an example of that? They wanted it protected.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,016

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by ohms_law View Post
    There's a cultural clash occurring here. It doesn't seem to me that the money is the primary issue to the Japanese (although, that's certainly part of it), rather it's some form of Japanese honor that we're misunderstanding.
    What's the clash? NPB had a chance to sign the guy from early on and decided, for whatever reason, not to, so he went and pitched in an Industrial League. If they thought he was going to amount to anything, they had a chance to sign him and by the time they actually decided to move, it was too late. Now it is culture clash.

    I thought blaming the downfall of the Korean Baseball League on American Baseball to be a crock of ****, too. NPB has been raiding Korea of its talent as well ... it just doesn't pay as well.

    Foreign players are seeing big bucks going to the more talented of Japan's players and are now looking to cash in on it earlier in their careers.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,016

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Probably not all that dissimilar than how some people got worked up over THIS
    Personally, I think Hammon's story is a little bit different. She wanted to play in the Olympics which I have no problem with but she became a Naturalized Citizen without having Russian familial ties. Had she played for a country her great grandparents had been from, that is another story.

    This guy just wants to compete against the best in the world and get paid for it. He isn't becoming an American Citizen in order to play.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Republic of Georgia
    Posts
    12,385

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by JeepGuy63 View Post
    Personally, I think Hammon's story is a little bit different. She wanted to play in the Olympics which I have no problem with but she became a Naturalized Citizen without having Russian familial ties. Had she played for a country her great grandparents had been from, that is another story.

    This guy just wants to compete against the best in the world and get paid for it. He isn't becoming an American Citizen in order to play.
    That's all she wanted too was to fulfill her dream of playing in the Olympics.

    People accused her of being a 'traitor' and being 'unpatriotic' because she played for Russia.

    I'm sure many of the Japanese feel the same way about their best players leaving home to play someplace else

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,016

    Re: Japanese Irked at U.S. Interest in Pitching Phenom

    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    That's all she wanted too was to fulfill her dream of playing in the Olympics.

    People accused her of being a 'traitor' and being 'unpatriotic' because she played for Russia.

    I'm sure many of the Japanese feel the same way about their best players leaving home to play someplace else
    There's leaving home and then there's changing one's citizenship in order to play. I think those are two very different things ... now, had her parents, grandparents or some distant relative been Russian by birth, I think no one would have a problem with her playing for another country.

    On the other hand, USA Basketball sucks in their selection of players and they flat out told Hammon they didn't want her.

    Well, Tazawa isn't the first to leave his country to play in the States and he isn't changing his citizenship. NPB had their chance to sign the guy and they decided not to.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •