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    This year's Hall of Fame ballot

    The following players are eligible this year (although only a portion of them will be on the actual ballot):

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    Harold Baines
    Bert Blyleven
    Andre Dawson
    Tommy John
    Don Mattingly
    Mark McGwire
    Jack Morris
    Dale Murphy
    Dave Parker
    Tim Raines
    Jim Rice
    Lee Smith
    Alan Trammell
    Rickey Henderson
    Steve Avery
    Jay Bell
    Jason Bere
    Mike Bordick
    John Burkett
    David Cone
    Omar Daal
    Ron Gant
    Joe Girardi
    Mark Grace
    Mark Guthrie
    Joey Hamilton
    Bill Haselman
    Darren Holmes
    Trenidad Hubbard
    Todd Hundley
    Brian L. Hunter
    Félix José
    Chad Kreuter
    Graeme Lloyd
    Keith Lockhart
    Albie Lopez
    Pat Mahomes
    Al Martin
    Orlando Merced
    Charles Nagy
    Denny Neagle
    Troy O'Leary
    Jesse Orosco
    Lance Painter
    Dean Palmer
    Craig Paquette
    Dan Plesac
    Tom Prince
    Jeff Reboulet
    Rick Reed
    Rich Rodriguez
    Terry Shumpert
    Luis Sojo
    Greg Vaughn
    Mo Vaughn
    Dave Veres
    Matt Walbeck
    Matt Williams
    Mike Williams
    Kevin Young
    I'd vote for Blyleven, Henderson, McGwire, Raines, and Trammell.

    Of the non-Henderson first-timers, I think only David Cone and Mark Grace will get enough votes (5%) to stay on the ballot.

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    Lance Painter, Jeff Reboulet, Matt Walbeck... and TRENIDAD HUBBARD! LOL

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    WTF is Joe Girardi is there? Wasn't he a backup catcher for the Yankees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish Troll View Post
    WTF is Joe Girardi is there? Wasn't he a backup catcher for the Yankees?
    Yes?

    To be eligible for the Hall of Fame, all that is required is to have played in at least 10 years, and have been retired for 5. The actual ballot will be stripped down from that list and will be composed of the returning players from last year's ballot, plus a selection of the new eligible players that a screening committee chooses.

    But really, of all the players on that list, Joe Girardi is the one that makes you say "WTF?" Not, I don't know, Trenidad Hubbard?

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    Wow Girardi was a shitty player.

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    gant will get a few votes too... he might get the 5% definatly not a HOF'er but he might get the 5%
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    I would Elect Baines, Tommy John, Blevylen, Trammel, McGwire, and Henderson , not all on this ballot of course


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies View Post
    I would Elect Baines, Tommy John, Blevylen, Trammel, McGwire, and Henderson , not all on this ballot of course
    why not on this ballot??? whats the difference if its this ballot or next years...

    and id give it to Henderson and maybe baines... i havent looked at their #'s in a while. Tommy MAYBE but im not sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet View Post
    why not on this ballot??? whats the difference if its this ballot or next years...

    and id give it to Henderson and maybe baines... i havent looked at their #'s in a while. Tommy MAYBE but im not sure
    Because that is too many for one ballot, at least for the BBWAA to comprehend. And Raines is basically a poorman's(But not that poor even) Henderson, and Tommy John should be in already *EDIT I Meant Raines, not Baines. Though both deserve electoin, and Baines offensive stats were simular to Henerson, just lesser, and with no speed


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    Oh, and Dave Parker belongs in the HOF as well


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    http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/parkeda01.shtml Parker had nearly 3,000 hits, over 300 homers, and won several Gold Gloves

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/johnto01.shtml Tommy John Won 288, had a 3.34 ERA, ERA+ of 110, and threw nearly 5,000 innings

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/baineha01.shtml Had Rickey Henderson's Bat, just not his speed, had 2,866 hits and an OPS+ of 120

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/raineti01.shtml This guy was even more like Rickey Henderson, stealing 808 bases, posting a .385 OBP, and hitting 2606 hits

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blylebe01.shtml Blyleven had vitually the same stats as Tommy John.


    http://www.baseball-reference.com/t/trammal01.shtml Trammell topped 2,300 hits, had some pop, and an amazing glove.

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcgwima01.shtml McGwire had an OPS+ of 162, 'nuff said.

    So yeah, hope this helps. These are who I feel should be elected


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    Re: This year's Hall of Fame ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies View Post
    Because that is too many for one ballot, at least for the BBWAA to comprehend. And Baines is basically a poorman's(But not that poor even) Henderson, and Tommy John should be in already
    Yayy...I love HOF debates. Tommy John? no.

    He has a career ERA+ of only 110. He's higher up on the career BB's allowed then he is on the SO's (both in the 40's) He's 15th in Earned Runs allowed. 10th in hits allowed. And his black ink-grey ink and HOF standards are below average.

    And if you say anything about his surgery i'll hit you.

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    um... NO on big Mac

    Tommy and Blyleven im torn on... the # is 300 for a reason... if we let in 285 wins... then 275-280's will complain and then we start getting just ok guys... the HOF is for the ELITE players, not the really good ones.

    if you put Blyleven in you have to put Tony Mullane only 2 less wins but 30 less losses. There are cases when you can ignore the #'s (pedro for example) due to dominance but medeocre pitchers do not belong because they got CLOSE to the "magic" numbers. He never lead in ANYTHING. Dont get me wrong he was a good pitcher but certainly not what I would call Hall of Famer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavelb1 View Post
    And if you say anything about his surgery i'll hit you.
    I was waiting for that to be mentioned... my pimp hand is up as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet View Post
    um... NO on big Mac

    Tommy and Blyleven im torn on... the # is 300 for a reason... if we let in 285 wins... then 275-280's will complain and then we start getting just ok guys... the HOF is for the ELITE players, not the really good ones.

    if you put Blyleven in you have to put Tony Mullane only 2 less wins but 30 less losses. There are cases when you can ignore the #'s (pedro for example) due to dominance but medeocre pitchers do not belong because they got CLOSE to the "magic" numbers. He never lead in ANYTHING. Dont get me wrong he was a good pitcher but certainly not what I would call Hall of Famer
    Ninth alltime in shutouts, fifth...FIFTH are you kidding me? fifth in strikeouts. A miniscule career WHIP of 1.19.

    W-L mean nothing in this case. Look at his time in Texas?!

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