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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...c-tb-seriously

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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    OUCH lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    The spot on mlb.tv was prett bad. No, the Royals aren't going to be the Rays of '09. I don't know why you think that would be disappointing to me.

    However, that article you posted is just as bad. We are going to be dependent on a breakout campaign from Zack Greinke!?!??! Boy, perhaps someone should tell this guy that Greinke was a pretty good pitcher last year...you know, 183 Ks, over a 3:1 K:BB ratio and a 3.47 ERA over 200 innings last year. How the F is that not a breakout campaign?? What does he mean by saying we need him to have a breakout campaign?? 2.50 ERA!??!? Greinke is already a damn good starting pitcher, close to an ace, and is 24 years old. I also like how he doesn't want to talk about the 4.32, 4.51, and 5.10 FIP pitchers we have returning from last year, all three of whom are fairly young..that's a pretty solid back of the rotation returning from last year and they could all improve (could).

    As for the bullpen, Ron Mahay was very good last year until he got hurt late in the year, Robinson Tejeda was good in relief when we acquired him...to say we have little outside of Soria in the bullpen is an inaccurate and irrelevant point, given the fickle nature of bullpens/relievers from year to year. Dayton Moore has put together a good bullpen based on young power arms every year he's been here, there's no reason to think he won't do it again...but I see he doesn't want to talk about that...he just figures that since it's the Royals and he can't name the other guys..it must mean they have nothing.

    The offense isn't going to be great, but it should get a little better with continued development of Gordon and Butler and getting rid of black holes like Joey Gathright, Tony Pena Jr. and Ross Gload's ABs. Pretty much every projection of our team that I've seen has us at about a .500 team, and I'd say that's about where I have them too. I don't see the shame in that.

    Yes, the MLB.TV spot was bad..but so is this article. If you're gonna try to analyze a piece about a team and criticize it, you should probably do more than just throw out a couple names with almost zero information and base your entire argument on that.
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    The point he tries to make about our starting pitching is the most laughable.

    "The 2009 Royals have little in their bullpen outside of Joakim Soria, are going to be dependent on another solid season from Gil Meche and a breakout campaign from Zack Greinke to make even their 1-2 pitchers effective."

    What a joke. Our 1-2 pitchers gave us over 410 innings, 363 Ks, a 3:1 K:BB ratio and a combined 3.62 ERA, yet this joker thinks we still need Greinke to break out just for them to be "effective." That's one of the stupidest things I've ever read. I love reading things like this...I can hardly stop laughing at people trying to analyze things..yet be off so badly.
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    http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/ind...unheralded-ace

    Here's a far better article..about Zack Greinke. You know..the guy that needs to finally have that "breakout season" and really needs to "put things together" to be a good pitcher for once. (Plesac said this..in the mlb.tv piece).

    Boy, I sure hope that Greinke can finally learn how to be an effective starter......otherwise he'll have to be considered a bust soon.
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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    KowboyKoop, if you read the comments, the author said this:

    I should have rephrased that to say they are depending on another solid season from Meche and Greinke to prove his breakout season in 08 is the real deal.
    Eric Seidman is one of the best analysts on the internet today. His work at FanGraphs and Baseball Prospectus is impeccable. He made a slip up in this article, but, as you can see, corrected himself.

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    I find it better not to mention Kansas City or the Royals, Poet. It is safer that way...


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies View Post
    I find it better not to mention Kansas City or the Royals, Poet. It is safer that way...
    hhehehe. I LOVE to see passionate baseball fans tho... thats what makes this sport so great
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNamelessPoet View Post
    hhehehe. I LOVE to see passionate baseball fans tho... thats what makes this sport so great
    Yep, they are SOOOO much better then gay fair-weathered whiners who call themselves loyal supporters of the pride of their cities.


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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    I feel like Koop has gotten his point across with the promise of the Royals MANY times. Why do people on here keep saying they have no hope when obviously Koop has shown numerous valid points as to why they do.

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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    They have no hope. Might as well fold the tent right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies View Post
    Yep, they are SOOOO much better then gay fair-weathered whiners who call themselves loyal supporters of the pride of their cities.
    not really sure what their sexual orientation has to do with it and I also dowbt that all of those people are homosexual.
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    They have no hope. Might as well fold the tent right now.
    lol well thats just mean
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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    well, I was joking (mostly)

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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    KowboyKoop, if you read the comments, the author said this:



    Eric Seidman is one of the best analysts on the internet today. His work at FanGraphs and Baseball Prospectus is impeccable. He made a slip up in this article, but, as you can see, corrected himself.
    I did read the comments. His comment came a couple hours after my posts, it looks like. Good for him for correcting himself though.

    As for his correction of himself...I'd say it's likely that Greinke is the "real deal," but yes, another season of it or close to it would solidify that even more.
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    Re: Marlins send Jacobs to Royals

    Quote Originally Posted by bucher34 View Post
    I feel like Koop has gotten his point across with the promise of the Royals MANY times. Why do people on here keep saying they have no hope when obviously Koop has shown numerous valid points as to why they do.
    Yeah, something like that.

    I should say though..that my last series of posts was just critical of the article (and the mlb.tv spot...lord that was awful...), not whoever posted the link...in this instance anyways. I'm sure it'll happen all over again in a couple days when the Royals sign an AA third baseman.
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