Predict the FA contest

[filihok]

SP: Ben Sheets- LAA 5 yrs/52 mil
SP: CC Sabathia- NYY 6 yrs/63 mil
SP: Derek Lowe- BOS 4 yrs/25 mil
SP: Ryan Dempster-STL 3 yrs/31 mil
SP: A.J. Burnett- CHW 3 yrs/23 mil

Woah! Remind me not to hire you as my agent if I'm ever a starting pitcher

[TheNamelessPoet]

lol not only that but u think lowe is getting a 4 year deal from the Sox lol... not a chance.. if he got anything from them it would be 2 years... if they even offered it to him

[defense]

This would be so much simpler if we just did teams, but eh...


OF: Manny Ramirez- NYY 4 yrs/66 mil
OF: Ken Griffey Jr.- Retires (or... if I have to guess: SEA 2 yrs/ 20 mil)
1B: Mark Teixeira- LAA 5 yrs/ 88 mil
2B: Jeff Kent- CLE 1 yr/6 mil
OF: Pat Burrell- TOR 3 yr/21 mil
OF: Adam Dunn- ARI 3 yrs/32 mil
SP: Ben Sheets- LAA 5 yrs/52 mil
SP: CC Sabathia- NYY 6 yrs/63 mil
SP: Derek Lowe- BOS 4 yrs/25 mil
SP: Ryan Dempster-STL 3 yrs/31 mil
SP: A.J. Burnett- CHW 3 yrs/23 mil
CP: Brian Fuentes-FLA 2 yrs/18 mil
CP: Fransisco Rodriguez- NYM 6 yrs/75 mil
RP: Jason Isringhausen- WAS 2 yrs/ 13 mil

This is the 2008-2009 offseason, not the 1998-1999 offseason

Also the thought of the Marlins signing any big time free agent is somewhat laughable

[defense]

SP: CC Sabathia-NYY 5 years $85 million

Why would he sign with the Yankees for 5 years/85 million when the Brewers, who are in the league he apparently likes better, will offer him 4 years for about 100 million(according to various reports)

I think he winds up as a Yankee as well, but it isn't going to be for 85 million dollars.

[gRYFYN1]

OF: Manny Ramirez-NYM 4/96 (24)
OF: Ken Griffey Jr.-SEA 2/22 (11)
1B: Mark Texiera-NYY 7/161 (23)
2B: Jeff Kent-HOU 1/8 (8)
OF: Pat Burrell- PHI 3/30 (10)
OF: Adam Dunn-LAD 4/50 (12.5)
SP: Ben Sheets-TEX 2/30 (15)
SP: CC Sabathia- NYY - 6/138 (23)
SP: Derek Lowe- ATL 3/36 (12)
SP: Ryan Dempster-CHC 4/48 (12)
SP: A.J. Burnett-BAL 4/48 (12)
CP: Brian Fuentes- CLE 3/33 (11)
CP :Francisco Rodriguez-NYM 5/80 (16)
RP: Jason Isringhausen-DET 2/16 (8)

[RedsoxRockies]

This would be so much simpler if we just did teams, but eh...


OF: Manny Ramirez- NYY 4 yrs/66 mil
OF: Ken Griffey Jr.- Retires (or... if I have to guess: SEA 2 yrs/ 20 mil)
1B: Mark Teixeira- LAA 5 yrs/ 88 mil
2B: Jeff Kent- CLE 1 yr/6 mil
OF: Pat Burrell- TOR 3 yr/21 mil
OF: Adam Dunn- ARI 3 yrs/32 mil
SP: Ben Sheets- LAA 5 yrs/52 mil
SP: CC Sabathia- NYY 6 yrs/63 mil
SP: Derek Lowe- BOS 4 yrs/25 mil
SP: Ryan Dempster-STL 3 yrs/31 mil
SP: A.J. Burnett- CHW 3 yrs/23 mil
CP: Brian Fuentes-FLA 2 yrs/18 mil
CP: Fransisco Rodriguez- NYM 6 yrs/75 mil
RP: Jason Isringhausen- WAS 2 yrs/ 13 mil

You wayyy undervalued Burrell, Sheets, CC, Lowe, Texiera and Manny

[Red Sox Fan 734]

OF: Manny Rameriez Angels 3 years 75 million
OF: Ken Griffey Jr. Mariners 1 year 10 million
1B: Mark Texiera 5 years 85 million
2B: Jeff Kent Retired! 0 years 0 million
OF: Pat Burrell Philly 3 years 40 million
OF: Adam Dunn Arizona 5 years 60 million
SP: Ben Sheets Milwaukee 5 years 70 million
SP: CC Sabathia Yankees 5 years 90 million
SP: Derek Lowe Red Sox 3 years 33 million
SP: Ryan Dempster Cubs 3 years 45 million
SP: A.J. Burnett Atlanta 3 years 35 million
CP: Brian Fuentes Tampa Bay 4 years 40 million
CP: Fransisco Rodriguez Mets 6 years 90 million
RP: Jason Isrignhousen Tigers 2 years 15 million

[filihok]

Players

OF: Manny Rameriz Mets 3 Years $23 mil per
OF: Ken Griffey Jr Seattle 1 Year $12 mil
1B: Mark Texiera Yankees 6 Years $22 mil
2B: Jeff Kent Retire already
OF: Pat Burrell Philadelphia 3 Years $14
OF: Adam Dunn Yankees 3 Years $18 mil
SP: Ben Sheets Rangers 4 Years $18 mil
SP: CC Sabathia Yankees 6 Years $ 22 mil
SP: Derek Lowe Red Sox 3 Years $ 14 mil
SP: Ryan Dempster Cubs 4 Years $13 mil
SP: A.J. Burnett Dodgers 3 Years $18 mil
CP: Brian Fuentes Brewers 3 Years $9 mil
CP: Fransisco Rodriguez Mets 4 Years $13 mi
RP: Jason Isrignhousen Rangers 2 years $12 mil

[metsguy234]

This would be so much simpler if we just did teams, but eh...


OF: Manny Ramirez- NYY 4 yrs/66 mil
OF: Ken Griffey Jr.- Retires (or... if I have to guess: SEA 2 yrs/ 20 mil)
1B: Mark Teixeira- LAA 5 yrs/ 88 mil
2B: Jeff Kent- CLE 1 yr/6 mil
OF: Pat Burrell- TOR 3 yr/21 mil
OF: Adam Dunn- ARI 3 yrs/32 mil
SP: Ben Sheets- LAA 5 yrs/52 mil
SP: CC Sabathia- NYY 6 yrs/63 mil
SP: Derek Lowe- BOS 4 yrs/25 mil
SP: Ryan Dempster-STL 3 yrs/31 mil
SP: A.J. Burnett- CHW 3 yrs/23 mil
CP: Brian Fuentes-FLA 2 yrs/18 mil
CP: Fransisco Rodriguez- NYM 6 yrs/75 mil
RP: Jason Isringhausen- WAS 2 yrs/ 13 mil

You wayyy undervalued Burrell, Sheets, CC, Lowe, Texiera and Manny

Burrell- 7 mil a year- maybe I undervalued him by a couple million a year
Sheets-10.2 mil a year
CC- 10.5 mil a year- in comparison to Sheets, yeah, CC should be a bit higher per year too
Teixeira-15.6 mil a year- in comparison to Manny he should be much higher
Manny- 16.5 mil a year- now that I look at this, he should be several million lower, people seem to forget that 36 year old declining injury risks don't deserve that much cash

[koolzach1]

Burrell- 7 mil a year- maybe I undervalued him by a couple million a year
Sheets-10.2 mil a year
CC- 10.5 mil a year- in comparison to Sheets, yeah, CC should be a bit higher per year too
Teixeira-15.6 mil a year- in comparison to Manny he should be much higher
Manny- 16.5 mil a year- now that I look at this, he should be several million lower, people seem to forget that 36 year old declining injury risks don't deserve that much cash

What you think these players should get and will get are 2 different things; CC will likely get 6 years @ 25M per, Tex 7 years @ 20M per, Sheets 3 or 4 years @ 15M per, Manny 3 or 4 years @ 20-25M per.

[koolzach1]

OF: Manny Ramirez - Angels - 3 Years $25M per. (75M total)
OF: Ken Griffey Jr - Seattle - 1 Year $8M. (8M total)
1B: Mark Texiera - Yankees - 7 Years $20M per. (140M total)
2B: Jeff Kent - Retire.
OF: Pat Burrell - Philadelphia - 3 Years $14M per. (42M total)
OF: Adam Dunn - Royals - 4 Years $15M per. (60M total)
SP: Ben Sheets - Dodgers - 3 Years $15M per w/1 Year Team Option @ 15M. (40M w/60M total possible)
SP: CC Sabathia - Yankees - 6 Years $25M per. (150M total)
SP: Derek Lowe - Angels - 3 Years 15M per. (45M total)
SP: Ryan Dempster - Cubs 4 Years $12M per. (48M total)
SP: A.J. Burnett - Orioles - 3 Years $16M per w/1 Year Team Option @ 16M. (48M total w/64M total possible)
CP: Brian Fuentes - Cardinals - 3 Years @ $11M (33M total)
CP: Fransisco Rodriguez - Mets - 5 Years @ $14M per. (70M total)
RP: Jason Isrignhousen - Rangers - 1 years $6M. (6M total)

Might as well extend it a few names...

SP: Oliver Perez - Mets - 3 years @ 9M per. (27M total)
SP: Jon Garland - Brewers - 4 years @ 12M per. (48M total)
1B: Jason Giambi - Orioles - 2 years @ 10M per. (20M total)
2B: Orlando Hudson - Astros - 4 years @ 8M per. (32M total)
SS: Rafael Furcal- Dodgers - 3 years @ 11M per. (33M total)
SS: Orlando Cabrera - Tigers - 3 years @ 8M per. (24M total)
SS: Edgar Renteria - Cardinals - 3 years @ 10M per. (30M total)
3B: Joe Crede - Dodgers - 3 years @ 8M per. (24M total)
OF: Bobby Abreu - Mets - 3 years @ 13M per. (39M total)
OF: Milton Bradley - Rangers - 3 years @ 10M per w/1 Year Team Option @ 10M. (30M total w/40M total possible)

[etothep]

Burrell- 7 mil a year- maybe I undervalued him by a couple million a year
Sheets-10.2 mil a year
CC- 10.5 mil a year- in comparison to Sheets, yeah, CC should be a bit higher per year too
Teixeira-15.6 mil a year- in comparison to Manny he should be much higher
Manny- 16.5 mil a year- now that I look at this, he should be several million lower, people seem to forget that 36 year old declining injury risks don't deserve that much cash

Do you lowball free agents in BBM like that as well?

[HoustonGM]

Burrell- 7 mil a year- maybe I undervalued him by a couple million a year
Sheets-10.2 mil a year
CC- 10.5 mil a year- in comparison to Sheets, yeah, CC should be a bit higher per year too
Teixeira-15.6 mil a year- in comparison to Manny he should be much higher
Manny- 16.5 mil a year- now that I look at this, he should be several million lower, people seem to forget that 36 year old declining injury risks don't deserve that much cash

Like koolzach1 said, it doesn't matter what they "should" get. This is about what they WILL get, in which you absolutely have to use the market standard to base your decision on. There is no way in hell that C.C. Sabathia gets less than $20 million per year, and he'll likely get a few million more than that.

The going rate for an AVERAGE major league pitcher is around $10 million. See Gil Meche, Carlos Silva, Jeff Suppan, etc. All these pitchers we're talking about in this thread are above average, and will likely get in the vicinity of $15 million per year or more.

[skudplayr]

OF: Manny Ramirez - LA Dodgers, 3 years - $75 million (25)
OF: Ken Griffey Jr. - Seattle, 1 year - $11 million
1B: Mark Texiera - LA Angels, 6 years - $114 million (19)
2B: Jeff Kent - Retire
OF: Pat Burrell - NY Mets, 4 years - $55 million (13.75)
OF: Adam Dunn -
SP: Ben Sheets - Texas, 4 years - $64 million (16)
SP: CC Sabathia - Yankees, 8 years - $192 million (24)
SP: Derek Lowe - Milwaukee, 3 years - $39 million (13)
SP: Ryan Dempster - Chicago Cubs, 4 years - $48 million (12)
SP: A.J. Burnett - Cardinals, 4 years - $52 million (13)
CP: Brian Fuentes - LA Angels, 4 years - $30 million (7.5)
CP: Francisco Rodriguez - NY Mets, 5 years - $70 million (14)
RP: Jason Isringhausen - Tigers, 2 years - $14 million (7)
SP: Oliver Perez - Royals, 1 year - $14 million (signed extremely late due to contract demands)
SP: Jon Garland - Houston, 4 years - $44 million (11)

[koolzach1]

OF: Manny Ramirez - LA Dodgers, 3 years - $75 million (25)
OF: Ken Griffey Jr. - Seattle, 1 year - $11 million
1B: Mark Texiera - LA Angels, 6 years - $114 million (19)
2B: Jeff Kent - Retire
OF: Pat Burrell - NY Mets, 4 years - $55 million (13.75)
OF: Adam Dunn -
SP: Ben Sheets - Texas, 4 years - $64 million (16)
SP: CC Sabathia - Yankees, 8 years - $192 million (24)
SP: Derek Lowe - Milwaukee, 3 years - $39 million (13)
SP: Ryan Dempster - Chicago Cubs, 4 years - $48 million (12)
SP: A.J. Burnett - Cardinals, 4 years - $52 million (13)
CP: Brian Fuentes - LA Angels, 4 years - $30 million (7.5)
CP: Francisco Rodriguez - NY Mets, 5 years - $70 million (14)
RP: Jason Isringhausen - Tigers, 2 years - $14 million (7)
SP: Oliver Perez - Royals, 1 year - $14 million (signed extremely late due to contract demands)
SP: Jon Garland - Houston, 4 years - $44 million (11)

Lord I hope that Cashman doesn't ink CC for 8 years, especially @ that kinda money.