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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989 View Post
    Rockies will look at Ellsbury, for sure. I'm also thinking they will look at Justin Masterson as a possibility. Especially losing Fuentes this year. Doubt the Sox will trade Masterson.
    I don't think we will go after Ellsbury. We have Fowler to come up and play CF in a few years and then they'd probably play Spilborghs in left.
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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsoxRockies View Post
    O'Dowd, Please don't trade him! It would be cool to see him in Boston, because I could see him more often, but Colorado needs him.
    Rockies aren't resigning a Boras client. Might as well trade him

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    get rid of him i dont like him so i think they should get rid of him

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    nope, don't want him.

    1. Too expensive
    2. No place for him (J.D. Drew has NO trade value, and no, he's not playing CF)
    3. Home/Road stats show he's overrated

    Last 3 years:

    home .332 15 59 .413
    road .308 10 29 .405

    2007

    home .376 25 82 .435
    road .301 11 55 .374

    2006

    home .373 22 78 .440
    road .280 12 36 .333 (biggest OBP difference)

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever View Post
    I don't think we will go after Ellsbury. We have Fowler to come up and play CF in a few years and then they'd probably play Spilborghs in left.
    That is true. Fowler could be ready by next year even. But I'm not sold on Spilly quite yet though. But we'll see.

    We're not going to resign the guy so might as well trade him out of town as soon as possible when teams are willing. Getting young pitchers is always a plus.

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by cartman00000001 View Post
    nope, don't want him.

    1. Too expensive
    2. No place for him (J.D. Drew has NO trade value, and no, he's not playing CF)
    3. Home/Road stats show he's overrated

    Last 3 years:

    home .332 15 59 .413
    road .308 10 29 .405

    2007

    home .376 25 82 .435
    road .301 11 55 .374

    2006

    home .373 22 78 .440
    road .280 12 36 .333 (biggest OBP difference)
    say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
    Exactly! And, his road stats still are very good!


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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Well, as everyone knows, Coors Field is a VERY hitters friendly park, so I definitely see that argument. Though, his home/road splits have improved over the years, so I still think that when he leaves Coors, he will still be a .300, .380, .510 player or so.

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
    Coors Field is one of the best "hitters parks" in the majors. He hits considerably better(atleast .030 batting average points better at Coors, more power at Coors, etc.).

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by dickay View Post
    say what???? I suppose if being better at home vs. on the road means you are overrated, more than half the league is well um..'overrated'!!!
    That's not the point. The point is that Coors Field inflates his statistics. He's still very good, and you can't just look at his road numbers and say "that's what he actually is without Coors" because it doesn't work that way, but he's worse than his raw numbers indicate. His OPS is over 200 points higher at home than on the road, which is extremely significant. I'd say, away from Coors, he'd put up .290/.360/.500 seasons...still very good, but not worth the price he's going to command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    That's not the point. The point is that Coors Field inflates his statistics. He's still very good, and you can't just look at his road numbers and say "that's what he actually is without Coors" because it doesn't work that way, but he's worse than his raw numbers indicate. His OPS is over 200 points higher at home than on the road, which is extremely significant. I'd say, away from Coors, he'd put up .290/.360/.500 seasons...still very good, but not worth the price he's going to command.
    bingo! What do you think? Something like...oh let's say........Jason Bay type numbers? Maybe less than Bay?

    Bay's career: .282 .375 .516

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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by cartman00000001 View Post
    bingo! What do you think? Something like...oh let's say........Jason Bay type numbers? Maybe less than Bay?

    Bay's career: .282 .375 .516
    Maybe slightly worse offensive numbers than Bay, but makes up for it with much better defense and baserunning.

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    Most of the rumors I have heard have been involving the Angels.
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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Here is a link about Holliday rumors

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/1...day-derby.html
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    Re: trades/signing this off season

    Quote Originally Posted by rockiesfan4ever View Post
    Most of the rumors I have heard have been involving the Angels.
    Another outfielder! They are going to be full of overpriced OFers like Guerrero, Matthews, Anderson, and Hunter!


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