trades/signing this off season (Matt Holliday)

[OregonDuck1989]

Rockies will look at Ellsbury, for sure. I'm also thinking they will look at Justin Masterson as a possibility. Especially losing Fuentes this year. Doubt the Sox will trade Masterson.

[TheNamelessPoet]

I wouldn't want to see the Yankees trade for him. One year rental with Boras as his agent? Pass

J.D. Drew of
5 years/$70M (2007-11)

* 5 years/$70M (2007-11)
o signed by Boston as a free agent 1/07
o 07:$14M, 08:$14M, 09:$14M, 10:$14M, 11:$14M
o limited no-trade clause allowing Drew to block deals to 2 clubs
o $9M of 2011 salary will be deferred at 1% interest unless Drew plays 500 games from 2007 to 2010 or 375 games from 2008 to 2010
o Boston may opt out of either of final 2 seasons if Drew:
+ spends 35 days on the disabled list in either 2009 or 2010 with injury related to pre-existing right shoulder condition, or
+ finishes 2009 or 2010 season on the disabled list and cannot play outfield the following season
o award bonuses: $0.2M for MVP ($0.125M for placing 2nd, $0.1M for 3rd, $75,000 for 4th, $50,000 for 5th), $0.1M each for Gold Glove, Silver Slugger or WS MVP, $75,000 for LCS MVP, $50,000 for All Star selection
* 5 years/$55M (2005-09)
o signed by LA Dodgers as a free agent 12/04
o $2M signing bonus
o 05:$9M, 06-09:$11M/year
o escape clause gives Drew right to leave as free agent after 2006
o Drew exercised escape clause & filed for free agency 11/06
* 1 year/$4.2M (2004), avoided arbitration 1 /04
* 1 year/$3.7M (2003), avoided arbitration 1 /03
* 1 year/$3.1M (2002), signed 1 /02
* 4 years/$7M (1998-2001)
* agent: Scott Boras
* ML service: 9.020

he is signed thru 2011 and if injuries become a problem... his last 2 years can be voided. Id take him back on the braves

[koolzach1]

he is signed thru 2011 and if unjurioes become a problem... his lat 2 years can be vloded. Id take him back on the braves

Defense is referring to Holliday, I think.

[TheNamelessPoet]

Defense is referring to Holliday, I think.

if u mean having defense is more important i agree

[OregonDuck1989]

if u mean having defense is more important i agree

the person defense is referring to Holliday is a one year rental.

[TheNamelessPoet]

the person defense is referring to Holliday is a one year rental.

lol what a fool (me) i forgot his anme was defense lol. i agree that Holliday would end up a rental

[koolzach1]

Lol, it's ok, I have those moments often, so I cannot say anything

Anyways... Yeah, he'd be a one year rental and then get a monster deal from whoever would be willing to pay... Won't be the Rockies, though.

[defense]

Defense is referring to Holliday, I think.

Correct

[OregonDuck1989]

I would assume the Red Sox would be willing to pay Holliday to a long term deal if they somehow moved Drew. Or hell, even if not. lol

[defense]

I would assume the Red Sox would be willing to pay Holliday to a long term deal if they somehow moved Drew. Or hell, even if not. lol

Usually Boras clients tend to never sign before free agency, even if their current teams give them a fair extension offer

[KowboyKoop]

Thats why he's playing for his 4th team and has only played a 140 games in a year 3 times and was almost booed out of Boston last year. Plus only 1 100 rbi season and has been run out of every city he's played for. Way over payed. He's never lived up to his ego and never will live up to his potential

Manny Ramirez will be playing for his 4th team next year...does that mean he is overrated?? Please.

Drew wasn't hearing too many boo's in Boston this year...especially when he pretty much single handedly engineered one of the greatest comebacks in playoff history.

You apparently don't like him, which is fine, but when healthy, he's a damn good hitter and is in no way "overrated." It's not like people are going around calling him one of the elite sluggers in baseball.....I'd argue he's underrated rather than overrated...b/c a lot of people do really silly things like use RBI totals to judge offensive ability....

[Pavelb1]

Sox arn't going to go after Holliday. Price will be too high.

[HoustonGM]

You apparently don't like him, which is fine, but when healthy, he's a damn good hitter and is in no way "overrated." It's not like people are going around calling him one of the elite sluggers in baseball.....I'd argue he's underrated rather than overrated...b/c a lot of people do really silly things like use RBI totals to judge offensive ability....

Agreed. Drew's a very underrated player. His one huge problem is he's an injury risk...and that he happened to have an off-year in his first year of a highly-publicized contract in the media frenzy that is Boston.


Anyway, Boston's not going to go after Holliday. They're not dumb. They recognize that they're currently fine in the outfield, and they recognize that Holliday is going to be way overpriced because there's going to be a team that doesn't account for park factors well. Most of the time, these things saying a "team will be interested" are rumors with no substantial evidence.

[dickay]

Agreed. Drew's a very underrated player. His one huge problem is he's an injury risk...and that he happened to have an off-year in his first year of a highly-publicized contract in the media frenzy that is Boston.


Anyway, Boston's not going to go after Holliday. They're not dumb. They recognize that they're currently fine in the outfield, and they recognize that Holliday is going to be way overpriced because there's going to be a team that doesn't account for park factors well. Most of the time, these things saying a "team will be interested" are rumors with no substantial evidence.

I agree Drew is underrated, he puts up great numbers...however as I said in a different thread, he does often have horrific plate approach. Thats totally different to plate discipline. There is a time you HAVE to be agressive at the plate, and Drew NEVER is. I don't think he's swung at a 3-0 pitch in his whole career. What pi$$es me off most is his defensive swings on 2-0 pitches and the like with guys on base. All to often i've seen him swing defensively and slap a slow roller for a double play...or fail to move runners over. He seems way too concerned about his OBP.

However, everything being equal...i'd take Drew and the frustrating at bats if I could get that OBP. He is an underrated player at the plate in general, and is very good in the field. Moving him for Holliday and his 'coors added' numbers would be a horrific move. The Sox outfield is fine. I'd give Ellsbury another go at it and if you can't keep Coco acquire a competent fourth OF'er. I'm by no means sold Ellsbury will be a solid everyday CF'er but he is MLB ready and talented. He needs another shot.

Texiera is intriguing but what to do with Lowell & Yuke? I personally am not as high on Tex as others are largely because he comes with a long term high dollar contract. I'd rather the Sox try to acquire a solid SS via trade or FA if ones available. They have to assume Ortiz will return to form...or close to it. Improving the bats on the bench is important.

One thing I'd be interested to se.....Yuke used to be a catcher at one point in the minors. He's played solid defense everywhere hes been. Could he be converted to catcher? You'd see a drop off in offense for sure but he doesn't swing at bad pitches and would be a big improvement over Tek at the plate.

[RedsoxRockies]

O'Dowd, Please don't trade him! It would be cool to see him in Boston, because I could see him more often, but Colorado needs him.