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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    Guess not
    Nah, Lidge is gonna blow it. Rays up, 1 game to none. Book it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldfatguy View Post
    nah, lidge is gonna blow it. Rays up, 1 game to none. Book it.
    ofg!

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    You know, hitters really need to learn to not swing at Brad Lidge's slider with 2 strikes.

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    Yeah, I know.

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    Damn.

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    Whelp, that one's in the record books...

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    Damn.
    yea
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    Well, it's good to know I've still got it.

    EDIT: Would now be a bad time to really CUSS THOSE MFIN PHILLIES OUT for beating the Dodgers?? Ok, guess it would be. I hope the Rays b......................................................... nevermind.

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    heh

    Don't worry about it. I was hoping you were correct.
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    I was sort of expecting this. Hamels is nasty....The thing is, he's SO far above the rest of the Phillies starters. While Hamels is the best pitcher in the series, the Rays have 3 starters (Kazmir, Shields, Garza) that are better than every non-Hamels starter on the Phillies roster. Not only that, Myers is likely the only other Phillies starter that has a decent shot of not getting eaten alive by an AL lineup. Moyer I think will get rocked by Tampa, and Blanton, should he start which is likely, wasn't doing good in the AL when he was with Oakland. I think that Tampa will when each game that the Phillies start anybody besides Hamels, which is why I (still) think they'll win the series given that Hamels, at most, can start 2 more games.

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    Yea, I agree.
    You insist that there is something a machine cannot do. If you will tell me precisely what it is that a machine cannot do, then I can always make a machine which will do just that! -J. von Neumann

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    I was sort of expecting this. Hamels is nasty....The thing is, he's SO far above the rest of the Phillies starters. While Hamels is the best pitcher in the series, the Rays have 3 starters (Kazmir, Shields, Garza) that are better than every non-Hamels starter on the Phillies roster. Not only that, Myers is likely the only other Phillies starter that has a decent shot of not getting eaten alive by an AL lineup. Moyer I think will get rocked by Tampa, and Blanton, should he start which is likely, wasn't doing good in the AL when he was with Oakland. I think that Tampa will when each game that the Phillies start anybody besides Hamels, which is why I (still) think they'll win the series given that Hamels, at most, can start 2 more games.
    Yeah, I would agree about a million percent, except for the X-factor. You know, the one that statistics insist doesn't exist. "Clutch"


    That's the X-factor. The Rays, each AND EVERY one of them, are now not just tryint to GET there, they're trying to WIN it. Every AB, every pitch, every fielded ball, every thrown ball, is just not the same as it was a month ago, or a week ago, or even last weekend. (And, to be honest, the pressure was starting to show in the Boston series).

    I think the Rays are the better team, I think the Rays should win, I even think the Rays probably will win, but I ain't sure they're gonna win. Because of the X-factor. And, to a team like the Rays, that X-factor is magnified.

    Sorry Baseball Prospectus, clutch does exist. And it affects different human beings differently. Usually those younger human beings have a harder time adjusting. And the Rays are the younger of the teams. They're better, but will they win. I still think so, AND I still DAMN SURE HOPE SO, but I'm not near as sure.

    But hey, as I've proven above, I don't have a clue what I'm talking about. Lidge didn't blow it. (I still think he will before the post season is over) And the Rays probably won't win. But I can't think of a World Series in the last 10 that I've been so passionately AGAINST a team as I am against the Phillies right now. And the really big problem is, I'm thinking they're playing so damn possessed that it seems inevitable that they'll win.

    But I'm old, my mother is older, and for the first time in many years I observed real hope and glee in her demeanor (and I'm not just talking about baseball). And the Phillies cut it short. That pisses me off (But, I'd be willing to bet there's a thousand stories just like mine on the Phillies side of the ledger). So, my bias is clear. I hope the Rays win. I hope they win convincingly. But I think the Phillies are just so hot right now that, well, it evens up the fact that the Rays might be the better team. In other words, this just might be the most interesting World Series in some time.

    And I'll be watching.

    And making more wrong projections.

    Hey, it's all in good fun, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillies999 View Post
    Those Tampa fans make really creative signs.

    For example "Smoke them Phillies"
    I actually thought that was creative and actually funny.

    You do know that a "Phillie" is a blunt, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Yeah, I would agree about a million percent, except for the X-factor. You know, the one that statistics insist doesn't exist. "Clutch"

    That's the X-factor. The Rays, each AND EVERY one of them, are now not just tryint to GET there, they're trying to WIN it. Every AB, every pitch, every fielded ball, every thrown ball, is just not the same as it was a month ago, or a week ago, or even last weekend. (And, to be honest, the pressure was starting to show in the Boston series).

    I think the Rays are the better team, I think the Rays should win, I even think the Rays probably will win, but I ain't sure they're gonna win. Because of the X-factor. And, to a team like the Rays, that X-factor is magnified.

    Sorry Baseball Prospectus, clutch does exist. And it affects different human beings differently. Usually those younger human beings have a harder time adjusting. And the Rays are the younger of the teams. They're better, but will they win. I still think so, AND I still DAMN SURE HOPE SO, but I'm not near as sure.
    I'm not buying this line of reasoning. Game 7 of the ALCS vs. the defending World Series champs is damn packed with pressure. I don't see the World Series itself as being "extra pressurized" enough for it to matter.

    The whole deal with the "younger" team stuff, history has shown that it's really irrelevant in the playoffs. 2003 Florida Marlins were about 27 years old on average, against the Yankees, who were about 5 years older. 2002 Angels were 29, vs. the Giants who were 31. Age and playoff experience have proven to mean little, if not nothing, when it comes to the outcome of a playoff series.

    No amount of "clutch" can outweigh the fact that Jamie Moyer maxes out in the low-80s, and that just doesn't fly in the American League like it can in the National League, and that Joe Blanton is basically the same except right-handed with some extra oomph on his ball.

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