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    Quote Originally Posted by defense View Post
    Ok. Two World Series that they won were played in Shea. And the history of the 1986 World Series was the game in Fenway, so it isn't like the 1986 World Series has too much history attached to Shea.

    Ok, that's all fine and dandy, but if you are actually making a case that Shea is in the likes of a Yankee, Fenway, or Wrigley, you are beyond being a normal Mets homer. No offense or anything. All three of those stadiums have had EPIC games played in them(03 ALCS game 7, Buckey Dents game, the Bartman game, the goat, Babe Ruth's shot, etc.), and have been AROUND much longer, and have had MANY MORE playoffs played in them than Shea has

    Shea is a second tier stadium when it comes to history, and importance to baseball, but you are crazy to compare it to those three stadiums
    Wrigley has had many more playoffs then Shea?

    And no, the Buckner game was at Shea...
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    Actually Game 6 in '86 was at Shea.

    Metsguy beat me to it.

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    Shea is obviously historical. But playoff success does not=history in all aspects. Wrigley is a gem of a stadium. It's one of the dandies of baseball with it's giant beams blocking some views as is Fenway Park.

    it has intricacies and downhome feeling. It has ivy hanging on the outfield walls, it has imperfections that make Wrigley what it is. It has people watching from their rooftops. It has LETS GO CUBS it has Chicago's heart.

    It has an address everyone knows. Much like Fenway. 4 Yawkey Way and 1060 West Addison Street are known by all.

    Shea had history come to it...Wrigley made it's own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989 View Post
    Shea is obviously historical. But playoff success does not=history in all aspects. Wrigley is a gem of a stadium. It's one of the dandies of baseball with it's giant beams blocking some views as is Fenway Park.

    it has intricacies and downhome feeling. It has ivy hanging on the outfield walls, it has imperfections that make Wrigley what it is. It has people watching from their rooftops. It has LETS GO CUBS it has Chicago's heart.

    It has an address everyone knows. Much like Fenway. 4 Yawkey Way and 1060 West Addison Street are known by all.

    Shea had history come to it...Wrigley made it's own.
    Actually I had no idea that Wrigley was at 1060 W Addison St. until you just told me... so I guess that address isn't known by all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Actually I had no idea that Wrigley was at 1060 W Addison St. until you just told me... so I guess that address isn't known by all...
    Cool.

    But it still has more history then Shea. That is one thing you are going to have to realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonDuck1989 View Post
    Cool.

    But it still has more history then Shea. That is one thing you are going to have to realize.
    What history does it have though? No games of any real importance have ever been played there.
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    Shea is obviously historical. But playoff success does not=history in all aspects. Wrigley is a gem of a stadium. It's one of the dandies of baseball with it's giant beams blocking some views as is Fenway Park.

    it has intricacies and downhome feeling. It has ivy hanging on the outfield walls, it has imperfections that make Wrigley what it is. It has people watching from their rooftops. It has LETS GO CUBS it has Chicago's heart
    It has Steve Bartman, too. And "THROW IT BACK! THROW IT BACK!" It has celebrities singing the seventh inning stretch. It has Harry Caray's voice still ringing through it.

    Important games are merely small portions of history.

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    The history of ballparks like Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley aren't really things that can be explained, in my opinion, its something that has to be understood, if that makes any sense to anyone.

    Its not always the games that make the stadiums, its the little (or big) intricacies and quirks of the ballpark that make it what it is. Its the ivy for Wrigley, the Green Monster and Pesky Pole at Fenway, the black and the short right field porch at Yankee Stadium. Its things like those that make them what they are.

    What about the flag game at Wrigley, Babe Ruth's called shot, the Bartman game, Kerry Wood's 20 strikeouts? Those are all things in the same vein as Dent's homer at Fenway and the Game 7's in the '03 and '04 ALCS.

    I think the old Busch could've been put in the same guard as Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley before it was replaced with the new Busch, on a related note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG View Post
    The history of ballparks like Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley aren't really things that can be explained, in my opinion, its something that has to be understood, if that makes any sense to anyone.

    Its not always the games that make the stadiums, its the little (or big) intricacies and quirks of the ballpark that make it what it is. Its the ivy for Wrigley, the Green Monster and Pesky Pole at Fenway, the black and the short right field porch at Yankee Stadium. Its things like those that make them what they are.

    What about the flag game at Wrigley, Babe Ruth's called shot, the Bartman game, Kerry Wood's 20 strikeouts? Those are all things in the same vein as Dent's homer at Fenway and the Game 7's in the '03 and '04 ALCS.

    I think the old Busch could've been put in the same guard as Fenway, Yankee Stadium, and Wrigley before it was replaced with the new Busch, on a related note.
    Nope, Busch had been around less then Shea. If Shea doesn't count, then screw Busch Stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    Nope, Busch had been around less then Shea. If Shea doesn't count, then screw Busch Stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YEAH DAAAAWG View Post
    History does not always equal age.
    But Shea Stadium actually had stuff happen there. Busch Stadium was a pile of crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    but shea stadium actually had stuff happen there. Busch stadium was a pile of crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metsguy234 View Post
    But Shea Stadium actually had stuff happen there. Busch Stadium was a pile of crap.
    Besides the Buckner game, what? And even that is associated more with the Red Sox than it is the Mets.

    The Old Busch saw McGwire's 62nd homer, legendary players like Ozzie Smith, Lou Brock, Bob Gibson, and 6 World Series, including the '67 World Series that some would argue was the best World Series ever played and the '04 World Series where the Red Sox snapped their Championship drought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonGM View Post
    Agreed.

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    Let's not turn this into a pissing contest. Most baseball stadiums that have been around for 40+ years have their share of great players and memorable moments.

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