If Ryan Howard wins his second MVP...

[metsguy234]

Pujols shouldn't win this MVP. In my most non-biased view, Howard really should win this.

[HoustonGM]

Pujols shouldn't win this MVP. In my most non-biased view, Howard really should win this.

How can you possibly rationalize this?

Albert Pujols is far and away the best hitter in the National League. Plus, Pujols plays OUTSTANDING defense at first base, while Howard is poor defensively.

Oh, right, I forgot. The only way to evaluate hitters is to look at the number of home runs they've hit.

[RedsoxRockies]

WTF HOWARD? Yo how does win?

[RedsoxRockies]

How can you possibly rationalize this?

Albert Pujols is far and away the best hitter in the National League. Plus, Pujols plays OUTSTANDING defense at first base, while Howard is poor defensively.

Oh, right, I forgot. The only way to evaluate hitters is to look at the number of home runs they've hit.

Pujols is the MVP this year in my opinion. Holliday and Chipper deserve consideration as well

[beerchaser]

Manny Ramirez for MVP!!!

lol

Seriously, there is no player in the National League more valuable than Albert Pujols. It isn't even close. He's the guy you start your team with and build around.

[RedsoxRockies]

Manny Ramirez for MVP!!!

lol

Seriously, there is no player in the National League more valuable than Albert Pujols. It isn't even close. He's the guy you start your team with and build around.

Manny has actually shown he may deserve a few votes

[RedsoxRockies]

Pujols shouldn't win this MVP. In my most non-biased view, Howard really should win this.

Metsguy, you are so fair weathered

[dannymac910]

Holliday deserves no flak this year.

[RedsoxRockies]

Holliday deserves no flak this year.

Look at his numbers, they are great! Yea, his team has died, but Holliday has been quietly posting another strong season

[dannymac910]

Did you forget what park he plays in? I could probably hit .250 with 10 homers in that stadium.

[gRYFYN1]

Here's an interesting food for thought metric ...

Pujols has been up to bat 295 times with 320 runners on bas he has an OPS of 1.110 and driven in 70 of those runners (21.9%)

Howard 337 PA, 463 runners on, 1.024 OPS, 93 driven in (18.9%)

[gRYFYN1]

Did you forget what park he plays in? I could probably hit .250 with 10 homers in that stadium.

Actually Holliday's tOPS+ Home/Away split of 110/88 this year is respectable epically considering his 127/72 career split

[RedsoxRockies]

Exactly! Holliday is a great hitter

[HoustonGM]

Here's an interesting food for thought metric ...

Pujols has been up to bat 295 times with 320 runners on bas he has an OPS of 1.110 and driven in 70 of those runners (21.9%)

Howard 337 PA, 463 runners on, 1.024 OPS, 93 driven in (18.9%)

Where'd you get those numbers?

It's really amazing how people simply can't grasp the simple concept that RBI's are largely a function of opportunity and runners on base ahead of you. Pujols has Skip Schumaker and one of Aaron Miles, Ryan Ludwick, and Rick Ankiel hitting ahead of him. Ryan Howard has Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino, and Chase Utley ahead of him. Gee, I wonder who's going to drive in more runs.

Did you forget what park he plays in? I could probably hit .250 with 10 homers in that stadium.

142 OPS+, which adjusts for ballpark.

He also plays very good defense, and has stolen 27 bases in 29 attempts this season, which I was very surprised about when I looked at his stats the other day. He's having a season on par with last year, but is getting no recognition or award consideration because his team is worse.

[grasshopper]

Call me old fashioned, but I still believe that the MVP should go to the player who most improved his team and chances at the playoffs. For Phillie, it is Utley, hands down. Howard should get the golden whiff award though.

I still think that Jose Reyes, Sabathia, and Manny had more of an impact on their teams making it towards the end.

(This comes from an absolute Manny hater, but since the trade....)