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Thread: Lee first to 20 wins

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    Re: Lee first to 20 wins

    He's had a very good season. Nobody has said he hasn't piched well

    He hasn't been the best closer in the league, using performance stats like ERA/ERA+, K/9, BB/9, K/BB, and the like. He's been the best reliever in the AL according to BP's WXRL metric, which includes leverage, but he's a full win (which is the value WXRL is measured in) behind Brad Lidge, although that's not relevant to a discussion of the AL Cy Young.

    Whatever you want to use, he's been a top-5 closer, and whether or not he's been the top closer is up for dispute. It's pretty certain that no reliever this year is having a better season than either Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay. Cy Young ballots contain 3 slots. Lee and Halladay are clear 1-2. There's a handful of others that I'd place third ahead of K-Rod - Jon Lester, Ervin Santana, James Shields, John Danks, Daisuke Matsuzaka, possibly Justin Duchscherer..

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    Re: Lee first to 20 wins

    Quote Originally Posted by boa View Post
    I didn't mean first place votes. He was extremely good in his role, and will and should receive some consideration. I'm not sure if he will receive any first place votes, but now that I think about it, I wouldn't be shocked if he received some.

    In fact, to say he isn't pitching well is just ignorant. He's almost a 10k/9ip and has a 178 era+. Whether or not you like the save stat, you have to admit he is effective.
    He has definatley pitched well, but Nathan, Papelbon, Soria and Rivera all have about the same number of K/9 , better BB/9 and ERA+ of 240 or better ...

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